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What are the rules about healing??
For the last few days my wife has been in agony due to an infection that has circulated in her body, her Doctor is puzzled as to what this could be, we prayed, and I prayed again, and again...she still is in pain,I shot off my mouth last night in anger because I have faith,I dont doubt. Im sure He does miricles still. Is there a formula, a set procedure from on high that works everytime.Or if she is to be learning something from this, that which doesnt make sence to me I dont get it. What can alot of pain teach you.....she looks to me, I look to him, now you see I have litterly asked to come out and tell me, what it is, why is it, and how come its happening....We arent getting the rest we need, she cant get comfortable at night, then she keeps me up. This is going on day in day out.......Im really frustrated.....help me to see what Im missing.
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Permalink Reply by journeyman on
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My dear Brother Chip, In times like these you describe our blood seems to boil with frustration. Our sadness about what our loved ones are going through pours out like sheets of water! We are not in control! Nothing seems right! Your wife is hurting and you see no end to this pain at all! You try to pray and the emotions explode! I know. I know because I have been there and am still there at times. Even just last night.....Make no mistake that troubles and battles are part of this world.God says; "Be still and know that I am God". Psalm 46:10. The healing answer is God. Faith in him. Trusting in him to lead you OUT of this minefield of pain, suffering and untold horror. Look to HIM. "Lord help me" is a prayer I say. Over and over....Then trust that his plan is perfect. NOT OUR plan! His plan.
Last night more ugliness and sadness tried to destroy my faith. I lay in bed in utter torment and fear. I realized that I am powerless. Only God can do this. Not me and not you Chip. He is our Pilot.. He is in control. Give it to him. EVERY single bit of it.
Your rest is in him. Trust him. Jesus we are yours! Jesus we are yours! By your blood we trust you for your answer. These fears can not stand up to him. He is the power and glory!
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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Journeyman.. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Chip, I pray that you will see God in the midst of this pain and suffering and difficulties. There are no easy answers. Continue to cry out to Him. He's right there with you and Kim.
About 3 and 1/2 years ago I was going through my heart issues... I have (had) a congenital heart defect which required open heart surgery to replace my aortic valve which had essentially closed and stopped blood flow through that valve. There were many sleepless nights....my heart would start to race as high as 160bpm from a deep sleep. I ended up having a mini heart attack. I was having fainting spells, trouble breathing, it took me several minutes to walk up a flight of stairs. when I was finally diagnosed they scheduled surgery within a couple of weeks. About a week after my diagnoses I was standing in my kitchen lamenting before God... (actually it was more like whining) 'Why me God'...'what did I do to deserve this?' 'Don't you care about me God?' I was anxious...I was frantic. I was weeping... it was not a light quiet weeping.. It was a fearful, defeated, weeping... I had decided that I had been defeated and forgotten.. But I was still praying. At the heart of it all I wanted to hear from God. My doorbell rang ... I wasn't going to answer the door because I was a weeping mess....she was persistent and rang the doorbell again. and there was a lady standing there. She was handing out her church calendars. (not JW). We got to talking... she was a lovely sister In Christ. After about an hour of talking I shared my story with her. She encouraged me with this bible verse:
Isaiah 41:10
10 ‘Do not fear, for I am with you;
Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you, surely I will help you,
Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.’It was exactly what I needed to hear, and it carried me through all of it. God renewed my hope, and my reassurance that He hasn't left me or forgotten me.
Why did I have to go through it? I can't tell you that entirely. What I can tell you is that God has worked incredible softening and reconciliation in my unbelieving husbands heart. I'm not sure how Romans 8:28 plays out...But I see evidence that it does.
Romans 8:28 says -- And we know that [k]God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:29 says -- 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
God is working to for us to 'become conformed to the image of His Son'
James 1:2-4..2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various [c]trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces [d]endurance. 4 And let [e]endurance have its perfect [f]result, so that you may be [g]perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
As Journeyman said 'Your rest is in Him. Trust Him.' It's true.
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Permalink Reply by Seek on
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Chip, God's the only one who can get us to see what we're missing, and sometimes we may never know the why's of some things. I think we get a mixture of just the sin in the world, satan attacking, God's timing, and lessons He's teaching us. There's not always a lesson perhaps. We just hold to the faith and keep on keeping on.
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Permalink Reply by Mary O on
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Hi Chip, I will be praying for you and your wife.
But there was something that you said that grabbed my attention. You said, "She looks to me, I look to him. Using me as an example, I will pray with my Gary, but I will also pray on my own. Please don't jump all over this, but personal opinion, couples stand together, but each person must also stand strong on their own. What happens if Gary isn't around, and I can't reach him? I can be independent. That may be a good thing or not so good.
Another observation, it's hard to stay peaceful when you are sleep deprived. If you can get a few hours of good sleep, it could help. Many answers come to us when we are peaceful. Paul and Silas were praying and singing when they were in prison. Peter was asleep while in prison. Whatever it is that relaxes you and helps you to get some sleep.
Love,
Mary
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Mary, That stood out for me too.
Chip it's an awfully large burden for you to carry if Kim is not praying on her own. We all look to Jesus independently and corporately.
It is also so important to get some sleep as Mary mentioned.
Blessings, Carla
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Permalink Reply by RoyW on
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Chip,
I am very sorry that you are going through this and that our wife is suffering. I wish I could share a formula with you that would work every time. If we could guarantee that following Christ meant that we would never have to suffer physically or emotionally, I think we would have many, many more people signing up for salvation. No, there is no formula. We know that God does heal our physical problems from time to time but sometimes he does not. He who would tell you that God heals every sickness either instantly or in time are either false leading or in complete ignorance. Some of the greatest people of faith I have ever known suffered from sickness their entire life. I do believe we should pray and ask God for healing and expect Him to do so. However, more than that we must learn to trust Him when He doesn't heal our infirmities instantly or even if we never get healed from an infirmity in this life.
I know so many that claim that God will heal all our physical infirmities if we only believe or make the right confessions, etc., etc. I personally visited the grave of one of the most famous of those that made such claims. I know one that claimed that he pastored a church and that no one in the church during his tenure there got sick or died. Yet, he died in a critical care hospital room seeking medical help trying to add a few more days to this life.
Chip, this is not a time for discussion but a time for encouragement. I am sure you or your wife are not being punished for something you have done or not done. You are a human and this is what we are. We have sicknesses from time to time. Our Lord is right there through every single one of them. He is right there with you as we speak. His love is not daunted for you nor has He forgotten you. God knows exactly what He is doing and your part is to learn to trust Him. He will keep You in His hand.
I am praying for You and asking God to be with you during this time. I know you are going to come out of this trial like gold coming out of a fiery furnace. You will be tried and tested and found that your faith is genuine and pure. Blessed be the Lord. I know words don't help much. Yet, I am confident that you will come through better than gold. In Jesus name.
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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Excellent post Roy.
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What are the rules about healing?
There are no rules for healing, there is no formula for it. Jesus healed many in various ways and did not heal others for lack of faith in their part.
We ask, knock and seek and we conclude with "Your will be done Lord." I will praise you one way or the other, but when God's Spirit commands you to speak boldly and with authority to the infermity than you do just that.
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Hi Chip, God bless you! How is your wife? I am still praying.
This is probably a goofy question, but is your wife drinking water? Sometimes when a person's sick they forget to take care of themselves. Water can flush out an infection.
Love,
Mary
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Great advise and reminder to all of us Mary
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Permalink Reply by Richard L. Broch, Sr. on
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Chip,
First of all, let me reach out through cyber space, and offer a long-range, Christian double-hug to you and your wife.
You asked about a prescribed formula for healing.......no......but James 5:14-15 describes a procedure:
(14)" Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: (15) and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him."
Count me in with prayer for both of you.
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Amen Chip,
Thanks for the up-date.
I'm continuing to pray for you both.
Grace and Peace.
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