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How can a good God send people to Hell
I have friends who cannot believe in a God who sends decent people, maybe any
people, to hell.
Any ideas of what I can say?
people, to hell.
Any ideas of what I can say?
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Permalink Reply by Ryan Berkeley on
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I just wanted to add my thoughts to this. Simply, I have a problem with a just God sending people to heaven. Why would God love us when we don't even love Him and sin everyday? Hell is the rightful place we deserve. Heck, we sin so much that by the end of our life, we can't imagine why would Jesus love us. However, that's the whole basis of our Christian faith. He loves us unconditionally and has saved us. So it's grace. Basically, unmerited favor or love that we are going to save. Otherwise, we rightfully deserve where we are going.
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Permalink Reply by KA on
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18
The choices we make determine our destiny. It really comes down to that and always has. As others have stated, you don't have to qualify God and what God has proclaimed, mankind must be in obedience.
Joshua of old declared, "Choose you this day whom ye will serve; . . . but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Joshua 24:15
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Permalink Reply by RoxChelseaGilmore on
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Well if there are people who don`t believe in God then they will go to hell my tutor is a non believer and he does not believe in God please pray for him that he will become a christian and that he will be in heaven with God please pray for him I don`t want him to go to hell I like him so much I want him to become a christian please pray for him
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Permalink Reply by Joan on
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These friends of yours have a very good point. I don't believe God is going to throw people into a burning fire where they will live forever and ever in torment. The fact is, the Bible doesn't say that is what's going to happen either. What it says is this: Rev. 21:5-8 And the one sitting on the throne said, "See, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true: It is finished! I am the A and the Z - the Beginning and the End. I will give the thirsty the springs of the Water of Life - as a gift! Everyone who conquers will inherit all these blessings, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But cowards who turn back from following me, and those who are unfaithful to me, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those conversing with demons, and idol worshipers and all liars - their doom is in the Lake that burns with fire and sulphur. "This is the Second Death."
You see, it doesn't say anything about being alive in a burning hell, now does it? The truth of this matter is that on The Day of the Lord, every person will be brought before the Lord for one of two things. To receive the gift of eternal life where we are promised to live forever and ever with Him in paradise, or death. That means cut off from life. The definition of "dead" is conscience of nothing. The second death is completely cut off from God, who is the only source of life. There will be no more rememberance of them. So the answer to their question is this. They are absolutely right in their thinking. The kicker is this. Do they choose to serve the living God who has power to raise them from the dead and give them eternal life unimaginable to anything compared to here on earth, or do they choose to turn from serving God and be cast into the lake of fire "hell" where there in no chance to go back and change what they did in their lifetime here on earth. That day is coming and we all will go before the thone of the most high God. What happens from there depends completely on what we did here on earth. The benefits of believing in Jesus and obeying the Word of God in this life here on earth are incredible! The power of the Holy Spirit amazes me everyday when I see mountains moved and people healed from sicknesses that confound the medical society. Jesus said we would do greater things then He did and brother it's happening all around this world right now. Lay the truth on them and let the Holy Spirit take it from there. When someone tells me the won't believe because of the "hell" thing. Man I take them down a path they never knew existed and you can do the same. Praise Jesus when the truth shines through!
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WELL THE STORY OF LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN TOLD BY JESUS [SOME SAY THIS IS JUST A PARABLE,BUT JESUS DOES NOT SAY IT IS A PARABLE AS HE DID WHEN IT WAS A PARABLE,EVEN IF IT IS A PARABLE THE MEANING IS THE RICH MAN WAS PUNISHED FOREVER.] IT SAYS THE RICH MAN WOKE UP IN HELL [IMEDIATE] HE IS IN TORMENT AND IS NOT EVEN ALLOWED A DROP OF WATER WHICH SHOWS THERE ARE ASPECTS THERE LIKE HERE. NOW IF HELL DOES NOT EXIST WHY IS A NON PLACE THRONE IN A LAKE OF FIRE? THE SCRIPTURES SAY IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL FOR NON TO PERISH ,BUT FOR ALL TO BE SAVED! BUT GOD GAVE US FREE WILL SO TO GET INTO HELL YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE WILL OF GOD! PEOPLE SEND THEMSELVES TO HELL FOR NOT ASKING FORGIVENESS FOR THEIR SINS AND ACCEPTING GOD'S SON. NO OUR LOVING GOD SENDS NO ONE TO HELL!
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Permalink Reply by maya on
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God loves us so much that He would never impose on us, it will always be our choice to follow Him or not, to follow Him means to go to His Kingdom and not to follow Him would be not to go to His Kingdom.Anyway a person who does not enjoy God's company would never be happy in His Kingdom, so He does not force them to be with Him for eternity, God is a very just God.
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Permalink Reply by maggie hancox on
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Ask yourself. Do YOU believe your Father wants to send you to hell?
Our Father sent the most precious thing in his kingdom, to teach you about his true nature.
Knowing that because of our wicked nature, that we would destroy him (Jesus Christ his only son).
This had to be done so that he could prove to us the depth, the length and the bredth of his love.
He allowed us to break the most precious thing he had (his son) so he could show you that THIS is how far he would go to show you how deep his love for us, we could break the most precious thing in is kingdom and he would STILL forgive us STILL love us beyond all measure.. Adopting us as his children and giving to us all the splendor of his kingdom, if only we would accept what he did for us, if only we would believe in his true nature as a loving Father.
What we each face every day is because of the wicked world we live in.
Because Adam and Eve believed the LIE that satan told them about our Fathers nature, they believed satan and because of the lie they believed in, they where believing in the very nature of satan. The destroyer!!...if the destroyer has been lifted up as king of the earth by way of our belief in his nature, and as such is runing amok in this world.(but for the grace of our Father who holds his hands on our lives to give us every chance to know is true nature) ..where does the world end up?
We ere given free choice to believe in either our Fathers nature or in the very nature of Satan.
What adam and eve did is believe in the nature of Satan, thinking that the nature that satan was trying to convince them of was the nature of our Father, as a Father who would not provide them all that they need to be happy and well.
Threre are concequences for our choices.
If we touch fire we are burned...if we believe and follow the ways of satan we will get VERY burned.
Not because God our Father unjustly sent us there, but because our feet walked us to the very gates of hell dispite our Fathers calling us and giving us EVERY opportunity to turn from our belief.
Follow the ways of the Father you go in one direction, follow the ways of Satan, how can you expect to go that same direction??
There is only one way and that is the narrow road, if you walk on the wrong road, you will not get to the destination you wish you could. And that is not God our Father sending you there, that is your own choice.
While you have breath he has given you every warning to turn around, as any good Father. Not to say I will punish you and send you to hell!! but to say to you MY DEAR CHILD I SEND MY SON TO DIE FOR YOU, I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IMAGGINALBE TO GET YOUR ATTENTION AND SHOW YOU THE RIGHT ROAD AND YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY TURN AROUND!!
He is mighty to save, but he will not go against your free will, you make your choiced by voting with your feet.
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Permalink Reply by Joan Carson on
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23 Minutes in Hell - Bill Weise
This is an incredible Testimony of Bill Wiese and his 23 Minute Trip to Hell. Bill was placed in Hell not as a casual observer, but as someone who was not saved. He recounts all the horrid details with such precision that it captivates the listener from start to finish.
I believe that hell is the absence of God, if in this life if we don't choose Him and His gift of Jesus that leaves hell which is the absence of all that is good which is God.
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YES GOD IS LOVE,BUT AS L.T.SAYS THERE ARE OTHER SIDES TO HIM JUST AS THERE ARE MANY SIDES TO US. WE KNOW IT SAY "VENGENCE IS MINE" SO GOD CAN BE A GOD OF VENGENCE. IT SAYS HE IS SLOW TO WRATH.WHICH SHOWS HE IS A GOD OF WRATH. SLOW TO ANGER. WE KNOW THEN HE CAN BE ANGRY. IT ALSO SAYS IT IS A TERRIBLE THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF A LIVING GOD!!!! MY COUSIN ,WHOM I LOVE WITH ALL MY HEART AND KNOW HE IS A CHRISTIAN. I HAVE HEARD HIM TELL MANY NON-CHRISTIANS NOT TO WORRY AS THERE IS NO HELL! I HAVE QUIETY INTERUPTED TO TELL THE PERSON THERE IS A HELL,BUT IF THEY ASK FORGIVENESS AND ASK JESUS INTO THEIR HEART THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY BOUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I THINK IT IS DANGEREOUS TO TELL PEOPLE THERE IS NO HELL! OH HOW HORRIBLE TO BELIEVE WHAT ONE HAS TOLD YOU ABOUT NO HELL,.,DIE AND LIFT THEIR EYES IN TORMENT!!! AND IT WAS A CHRISTIAN THAT HAD TOLD THEM! NOW I DON'T GO ROUND TALKING HELL,BUT SALVATION,THE LOVE OF JESUS,HIS SHED BLOOD,AND BY ASKING FORGIVENESS AND BELIEVING,THEY WILL NOT GO TO THAT TERRIBLE PLACE,BUT I WILL NEVER EVER GIVE THEM THE DANGEREOUS FALSE COMFORT THERE IS NO PLACE OF TORMENT! THAT IS TALKING FALSE DOCTRAINE! JAMIE
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Permalink Reply by work in progress on
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God does not send them. They choose to go.
GOD IS LOVE :)
God is forgiving merciful kind loving and good.
The Bible says that He desires that none should perish. He has given us the right to choose.
The sacrifice of Jesus or Hell. It does not get any more simple than that.
I have heard so many true stories of God giving one last chance in the final hour. God is so much more merciful than we know.
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Permalink Reply by Gayla on
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Hell was created for the devil and his fallen angels, however, mans sinfulness, and his rebellion open him up for entrance.
God does not send man to hell... man sends man to hell. God does everything within his power, to woo people to him, even giving his own son....on their behalf.
What more would you have him do?
He is a holy God. We do not understand that, since we live in a world full of sin.
There is no sin in God.
This is his world...and we play by his rules.
Your friends beliefs are rooted in rebellion, even though they are not aware of it.
Anyone who chooses to live by their own rules, and snub God.... is living in total unbelief.
Hopefully someone will pray for them... and hopefully at some point, they will see their need.
The Holy Spirit has to bring conviction to them, before they can be saved. Prayer brings him on the scene.
Gods arms are open wide, to anyone who chooses to come to him...he will never turn anyone away.
If they want to live with him, when this world is over....they will have to come to him, his way.
They cannot save themselves....and if they do not accept the sacrifice that Jesus offers, they will be judged by the law, and if we have broken one of the laws...we are guilty as charged. So... unless they are perfect....without sin of any kind.... they best be changing their mind.
God be with you.
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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So you believe that in Matthew 4 Jesus was being tempted by His own creation within His own mind? You believe that Jesus held a conversation with HImself? Do you also believe that the archangel Michael was dsiputing with his own mind and sin that he had created within himself when disputing the devil over the body of Moses in Jude :9?
Your assertion makes no sense when compared to those Scriptures regarding the devil being "what we create inside ourselves." Either you are wrong or the Bible is wrong. For your position suggest that Jesus sinned because He was tempted by the devil. If the devil is what we create inside ourselves by doing wrong as you suggest, then you believe that Jesus was doing wrong in order for the devil to be there.
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