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What will happen if “We” Sin?
Please Read ROMANS CHAPTER 6; 1-23
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through through Jesus Christ our “Lord”
For my own views , It means were already dead unto sin, without Us knowing it, “slowly dying”
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your “Mortal Body” that ye should obey it in the “Lust” thereof
In the passage of the Bible the “Lust”
1 John 2: 16-17
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Then in the same Chapter 1 John Chapter 2; 1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, “we have an advocate with Father, Jesus Christ the righteous”;
St. John 14; 1
1 Let not your heart be troubled ye believe in God, believe in me also
For me I believe in God First, the in “Lord” Jesus
Then how do we know the way or to believe?
14; 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
So its clear that don’t ignore or by pass Jesus as the “Lord” to the Father or God.
1 John chapter 1; 1-10 I recommend to read all the chapter 1
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ
All for One and One for All or Us, its not too late that we are “united as One”
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar and his word is not in us
Romans Chapter 6; 23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our “LORD”
I have my own beliefs of the word LORD and believing through Lord Jesus
I don’t know what is the “gift” of God means or you need to believe through Lord Jesus teachings and commandments and the Eternal life is the opposite of Death.
I think or reason its not too late to unite as " ONE" For God through Lord Jesus of THE BIBLE.
John 10 read all the chapter; 30
I and my Father are One
AMEN.
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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Hi Raven;
1 John 1
This is the message we heard from Jesus and now declare to you: God is light, and there is no darkness in him at all. So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. But if we are living in the light, as God is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.
If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts.
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Permalink Reply by June Raven on
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Thanks Carla for the Relpy
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Permalink Reply by Alan Goodman on
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My salvation doesn't come by anything that I did and I can't lose my salvation by doing or not doing anything. The only way for me to gain salvation is by putting my faith in the simple fact that Jesus shed His precious blood to take the punishment which I deserve. I can't lose this salvation that was given to me by God's work not mine, unless somehow I change my faith. Maybe if I fall from Grace (putting faith in myself or something other than the Gospel of Grace as a means of salvation). I have never for one second done this. I put my faith in this many years ago, and have not left, not even for a second. To me, this is evidence that God is doing what He promised, sealed me with His Holy Spirit and never will leave me. He died on the cross and forgave the world from sin once and for all, not every time we ask Him. (Research Hebrew culture and blood sacrifices, also the book of Hebrews itself). This would put the glory back on us because if we were good enough to confess perfectly then we could be saved by our works. Now, to be saved we must confess that we are sinners. Otherwise, how can you be saved by God if you don't need saving? If you can do it yourself, you have it covered. Once you are saved though, you have been forgiven of all your sin(s) past, present and future! I guess the question that we have to start with is, what exactly is my faith in? This could vary drastically on things like, what version am I reading, and how am I reading the Bible? As an example, is the book of James written directly to the Church? This is an important topic to talk about! Thanks!
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Thank you Alan goodman, i will read the book of James also
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I look forward to any input that you have, again, this is an important topic, maybe the most important of all! Years ago I had 3 questions that I had to answer for myself.
1). What is salvation?
2). How can I get it?
3). Can I lose it once I attain it?
These questions are so important in understanding our spiritual identity. The answers are so important that if you answer incorrectly, you may not even have received the salvation that you thought you did. For me, understanding that Paul was the apostle that was sent to the gentiles was huge in understanding the Bible. Some of the things written in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, etc. were not written directly to the Body of Christ (in the Grace age period) to live by. So, understanding who the author is, who they were writing directly to, when it was written and understanding the culture of the people in that day and place is vital to understanding scripture. I have learned a lot by talking with people like yourself who question things and want a deeper understanding of scripture. So, keep up the fellowship!
Thanks!
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Hi, alan
I never knew all the Bible verses or Chapters regarding S-alvation and S-in but the rule what i know was, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil according to the Old Testament was, when your conscience knows it or your mind is aware or there was an Intention or Malice, we, you or I committed a Sin which result on non- Salvation. Or by reading the Gospel about "Lord Jesus Salvation things" or when there are more in Old and New Testament, For me it was simple that even you knew a one thing that becoming Salvation for you and you had faith, trust or believe in God you will be S-aved. Or sight all the Verses or Chapter in the Bible make it One or Analyze it which is which like a puzzle choose or gather and build it to One that operates the True meaning in the Bible.. after this if im not becoming a lazzy i will try to sight some verses and put in it, but my advice for your own sake "Just believe or Trust yourself" when you read the Bible about Salvation and and O-ur God will do the rest.Amen
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Hello June,
These are very interesting thoughts, but I am not sure that I totally understand. If someone were to ask you, "How can I go to Heaven?" How would you answer?
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Sorry if someone ask me , i really dont know the answer, the answer above is "just my own thinking". Maybe they can read the Bible and see it for themselves. No one comes from the heaven except the Lord Jesus in the Bible so He knew that , what it was. And me ofcourse i dont know, i never came from heaven i Just reading a bible and have "some" or "opinion" judgement about our God . Im not in authority or permission to answer that
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Hi alan in this website all the verses about heaven are written here i advice they read the whole chapter of each verses
https://www.openbible.info/topics/entering_the_kingdom_of_god
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Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that we should not study, read and apply the book of James to our lives. What I am implying is that there are some things in James that are in conflict with Paul's writings. The main issue is salvation. Paul taught that we are justified by faith alone where James taught the we are justified by faith plus works. Peter and James started their ministries preaching to the Jews. Paul was sent to the Gentiles. It wasn't until much later that Paul confronted and corrected Peter (& disciples) that justification is by faith alone. They finally agreed with Paul. You will see this in Acts and Galatians. remember, the book of Acts spanned for about a 40 year duration. When you read James, don't fly over the first verse without understanding who the audience is. I am sorry that this is so brief and vague, we can discuss more thoroughly if you would like.
Thanks!
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Hi Alan,
I assume when you are saying 'conflict' you are not insinuating 'contradiction'??
Now, to clarify for Raven, a new believer who has recently come to Christ, and many others who will read this, it's important to be careful how we express these things. James is correcting a misuse of what Paul was teaching. Paul wasn't teaching it wrong or incorrectly, his listeners were abusing the freedom of God's Grace he was telling them about... that still happens today and it's very damaging to the church.
In short, people were using Paul's teaching of God's 'Grace' as a license to keep sinning. They were starting to believe that they could live however they wanted if they were saved by Grace alone. In fact we are saved by Grace alone, but that is not a license to sin. Even though people would abuse this, Paul was never deterred from teaching it because it's true. So, the question is, how do we reconcile this with what James teaches? The answer is that Faith works thru love. We see in Galatians 5:6 "6 For when we place our faith in Christ Jesus, there is no benefit in being circumcised or being uncircumcised. What is important is faith expressing itself in love."Paul is not saying here that Faith works with a layering of love (good works) on top of it. Paul is saying, in agreement with James, that faith gives us right standing with God, and the love that comes from our faith naturally shows that our faith is real. James was trying to express that he wanted people to have a real genuine faith which in outpouring is reflected by loving acts... Not that those loving acts would save us, but that those loving acts just prove that our faith is genuine.
I could go on and on, but just wanted to offer clarification before any confusion tries to makes it's ugly appearance, as we know that confusion is not from God.
Blessings, Carla
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