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Note on the upcoming changes
I understand that the idea of change tends to cause stress for numerous people. What I would like to do is first say at this stage that we really are not making changes, but adding options. Some will not be interested in or capable of engaging in Hangout on air meetings. That is OK. To my knowledge all of the current functions on TheNET will remain the same for you to be able to uses as before.
So again to ease some of the concern I again would like to say that I hope you view these additions as opportunities and options, but what you have come to enjoy here on TheNET should still be there for the foreseeable future. There will be no pressure placed on you to engage in the other ... not my style.
Hope that helps :-)
Lord Bless,
LT
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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Also, being face to face like this, we can fully know how people are expressing thoughts instead of us assuming they are saying something in a way they may not be saying them. I know for me, it takes me getting to know a person to fully understand exactly how they are coming across - were they being mean, sarcastic, real, etc? This is a great way to get to understand this more.
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Permalink Reply by Amanda on
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Things can still be taken the wrong way in face to face interaction. How will it be handled, when it happens? I have difficulty recognizing sarcasm in other people. It's happened to me in the forum, but it happens in face to face interaction, also, and it's been even worse, for me, in face to face encounters. Have you ever been in a group of people when someone said something which you took seriously and began genuinely answering and then hear everyone start laughing because they recognized it as sarcasm but you didn't. Maybe it's a sin to feel embarrassed, I don't know, but it happens to me. There have been times when it has happened to me and I was told, on top of it, that I should have recognized it as sarcasm, everybody else did. Some people really do have a problem separating sincerity from sarcasm. The general consensus is that those who don’t understand sarcasm are socially inept. And I guess they must be for I am. They aren't getting it. There's something wrong with them. I get it sometimes. Some things are easy, like being told, well aren't you just special, and the meaning is you aren't special. But I think everyone's mind works in its own way and some people take things that are said in a very literal way.
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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Nothing is perfect, for we are dealing with fallible man, and there are always exceptions to every rule or situation. For the most part face to face has a wide range of advantages over the written word unless the written word is finely articulated (because it really is all about communicating clearly), an art that most today do not possess. In the face to face we have body language and voice inflection to help guide us, not to mention the opportunity to ask a person what they really meant by what they said before responding. We can do the latter part when dialoguing using the written method to communicate, but that tends to take a lot longer and require more discipline than in a basic face to face conversation. Again, there are some exception, but overall for most a face to face will be a superior experience over a written one.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Sorry if I sound like I'm raining on the parade. I understand communication is more than words. I understand "voice inflection, body language, facial expression" are all needed in making relationships. I'm not saying it isn't better. I'm saying many of the same problems can still happen. Plus, not all people are equally comfortable with face to face interactions, and some are more comfortable with the other setting, especially extremely introverted people.
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Absolutely, and that is why people will still have the option to utilize all the great tools we have been using for nearly 8 years. This new tools is an option and available to all who want to participate, and though I am excited about this new ministry tool with all of its potential , no one will be pressured to use it.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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Amanda,
We are all learning to be better communicators. If any of us are not sure of the meaning of what's being said, it would be beneficial to just ask for clarification.
I believe this will be great training for us, and an opportunity that far surpasses a 'screen'.
Sometimes people can forget that there is a person behind that screen. This will be good. There will be a time of transition--just like anything new, but it will be good.
:-)
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It's still a screen, but some things are there such as "voice inflection, body language, facial expression" that aren't present when using this avenue to communicate. There's still an absence of making emotional connection, such as hugs, hand shakes, etc ...
I think, when I take something the wrong way and then ask for clarification, I feel more hurt in the total of the experience by not being believed that I needed clarification. What I mean is, if I take a remark the wrong way and the person believes that there's just no way I didn't "get it" and says so, it makes me feel even worse.
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If that is the case in your situation then this tool may not be for you. Again, it will not be the best method for everyone, but will be a great enhancer for many others. While it is true that there is potential for misunderstanding and hurt feelings in this method I would simply state that any interaction with another person runs a risk regardless of the method, but that is part of life that we deal with and experience day to day.
I believe that the benefit to the majority outweigh the negatives for the a much smaller crowd. For the smaller crowd all of the other tools on TheNET are still available and they can choose to not participate in this visual method.
Lord Bless,
LT
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I agree. Yes. I was just thinking the same thing. It's not for me. Plus, 9pm is a conflict. That's when my husband is getting ready for work and I'm packing his lunch, etc. There's the question for others though who are interested in meeting with you all -- what if more than ten want to participate? I could be in the audience, watching, and not participating.
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That very question was brought up last night. You can have an unlimited number come into the meeting. There are 10 that are designated as say 'overseers' for lack of a better word. The conversation of the 10 of you is private to only you but the rest can still participate through chat which you can reply to as well.
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Yes, to what you and Tammy have touched on. There are three levels ... host, participant and audience. Currently we are limiting it to the participants and will eventually open it, depending on the design and purpose of the meeting, to include an audience if others wish to watch. There are also two chat sections. One is visible and accessible to only the participants. Another section for chat/text is open to both participants and the audience.
Regarding 9 PM that is the selected time for the next gathering ... there will be others and we will rotate the time to seek to accommodate and encourage people from various parts of the world to participate. I intend to host at least two a week for now ... more will come online later as other leaders get comfortable hosting a Hangout.
Lord Bless,
LT
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