Before you leave your mouth hanging open too long on that title, my question is simply this....
A member here was considering involvement in something when two small tragedies struck their home in the last two weeks.
I have heard it said that that is when you press on through, that it's satan keeping you from doing what God wants you to do.
Ok...what if it's not satan? What if it's God saying DON'T!? How does one know the difference? I know we can't just ascribe things that go wrong in our lives to God or satan either because God says we'll have trouble. He didn't say that satan is going to cause every trouble in our lives, just that we'll have it. So why assume satan is fighting you from moving forward or that God is stopping you from making a mistake, or perhaps that it's neither?
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Well I'm on Part II, but something you said brings up another point on this...
You said you can't expect God will heal you if you're living in sin. This creates a problem at times in that...what is sin? I see the sins as adultery, fornication, idolatry, etc. But what about where he said if you even look at a woman with lust you've committed adultery. So then what if you have a bad thought? They come up frequently. You don't act on them, but the thought comes anyway. What if you try with all your might to forgive someone but still feel the hurt, or you try to stay peaceful yet you get stressed, you try to walk in love and sometimes are irritated? This one has pecked at me for years...what is sin when people speak of living in sin. I've read Gill on this many times, but his explanations still don't seem to settle this for me.
To clarify ... failing is not living in sin. Living in sin is to live in rebellion against God. We all stumble and fail, though that does not make it right or acceptable, but is still different from one who has looked at God ... His Word ... and chooses to ignore both and chooses to live the way they wish. Hope that helps clarify.
Added note: This rebellion could be in all areas of life or in specific areas of life.
Starting a new thread in the forum using this comment
Lord Bless,
LT
In Jesus' death we see that it was God who was pleased to put his son to death. We also see human responsability and demonic intrusions.
In all things - ultimately only what God allows to happen happens. He has no issues holding demons and humans responsible for their wickedness, even when that wickedness is working his good pleasure out.
Joseph Comforts his Brothers
…19But Joseph said to them, "Do not be afraid, for am I in God's place? 20"As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive. 21"So therefore, do not be afraid; I will provide for you and your little ones." So he comforted them and spoke kindly to them.
Joseph Knew God was behind his trials and He was ok with that. God holds the agents of evil responsible for evil even when it is him who has the last word in all matters of the universe.
Question: "Who was responsible for Christ's death? Who killed Jesus?"
Answer: The answer to this question has many facets. First, there is no doubt the religious leaders of Israel were responsible for Jesus’ death. Matthew 26:3-4 tells us that “the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, assembled together to the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas. And they consulted so that they might take Jesus by guile and kill Him.” The Jewish leaders demanded of the Romans that Jesus be put to death (Matthew 27:22-25). They couldn’t continue to allow Him to work signs and wonders because it threatened their position and place in the religious society they dominated (John 11:47-50), so “they plotted to put Him to death” (John 11:53).
The Romans were the ones who actually crucified Him (Matthew 27:27-37). Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, authorized and carried out by the Romans under the authority of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who sentenced Jesus. Roman soldiers drove the nails into His hands and feet, Roman troops erected the cross and a Roman solider pierced His side (Matthew 27:27-35).
The people of Israel were also complicit in the death of Jesus. They were the ones who shouted, “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!” as He stood on trial before Pilate (Luke 23:21). They also cried for the thief Barabbas to be released instead of Jesus (Matthew 27:21). Peter confirmed this in Acts 2:22-23 when he told the men of Israel “you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified and put to death” Jesus of Nazareth. In fact the murder of Jesus was a conspiracy involving Rome, Herod, the Jewish leaders and the people of Israel, a diverse group of people who never worked together on anything before or since, but who came together this one time to plot and carry out the unthinkable – the murder of the son of God.
Ultimately, and perhaps somewhat amazingly, it was God Himself who put Jesus to death. This was the greatest act of divine justice ever carried out, done in “the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God” (Acts 2:23) and for the highest purpose. Jesus’ death on the cross secured the salvation of countless millions and provided the only way God could forgive sin without compromising His holiness and perfect righteousness. Christ’s death was God’s perfect plan for the eternal redemption of His own. Far from being a victory for Satan, as some have suggested, or an unnecessary tragedy, it was the most gracious act of God’s goodness and mercy, the ultimate expression of the Father’s love for sinners. God put Jesus to death for our sin so that we could live in sinless righteousness before Him, a righteousness only possible because of the cross. “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).
So we who have come to Christ in faith are guilty of His blood, shed on the cross for us. He died to pay the penalty for our sins (Romans 5:8; 6:23). In the movie "The Passion of the Christ," the director, Mel Gibson, was the one whose hands you see actually driving the nails through Christ's hands. He did it that way to remind himself, and everyone else, that it was our sins that nailed Jesus to the cross.
I think thats a good question. I think one example of when God's stopping us to do something is when ther is a prompting of the Holy SPirit .this example is in Acts 16:6- They went through the countries of Phrygia and Galatia. The Holy Spirit kept them from preaching the Word of God in the countries of Asia. I think the Holy SPirit wil convict us about things, and tell us things As the word of God says in John 14:26- The Helper is the Holy Spirit. The Father will send Him in My place. He will teach you everything and help you remember everything I have told you. ANd plus with us being his sheep we listen to His Voice and He is our Shephard. Psalm 23:1, and John 10:2-5. The devil main involvement is to bring destruction, and all things that bring confusion. John 10:10, and James 3:15-16. But true not everything is related to devil in some cases. Some things are because of choice we made. Like we reap what sowed. We follow are own consels and then we suffer from that choice. Look at Psalm 81:12 and Galatians 6:8. Thats just may take it out.
Is this the new thread? LOL I get confused on the "new threads". I'm always thinking you mean a new discussion.
See that's something that bothered me for so long...sin. Was it sinning to get upset at the driver who cut me off? I still find myself sometimes speeding up a bit when the guy behind me whips out and revs it up to 90 just to cut back in between me and the car in front of me because they're so impatient. And I start praying God help me to not let what others do upset me like that or that I not feel a need to speed up and stop him from jumping in there and just lay back and let him do whatever. And I've always felt that was sin. Or if you don't jump to do something for someone else because you're worn out that you're being selfish and that was sin. So that's why I said when we say living in sin it can confuse people. I was really confused by it, and to an extent it does still bother me. I keep telling myself that I've seen growth in areas like traffic. I used to have a terrible road rage but don't drive that way anymore. I've even forced myself to get behind the slowest car on the interstate to make myself keep calm. LOL But sometimes no matter how much I try, calm don't stay calm. I want it to, try to get it to, get upset when it don't...which is another problem, getting upset with getting upset. Aye aye aye.
But I question it because there are many who don't commit adultery, steal, cheat, lie, murder, etc., and who go out of their way to help others, who still aren't righteous. Sometimes I think I think too much. Ya think?
That's what started me thinking on this. Even you say: the insight I've received for my own situation is simply that God is saying to me that I wasn't ready....
And I wonder, was God really saying that? Was satan just fighting you moving forward in something? Or was it just one (or two) of those things and was neither saying anything? It depends on what person of what faith you talk to on what day of the week under what constellation arrangement under what sign. LOL
"I gotta hand it to JB, he hit the nail squarely on the head when he brought up that Jesus won't return until we all reach unity of faith.
Is that really what the totality of Scripture teaches? Does it really teach that we as believers will move toward a oneness on earth so that we agree with each other on all issues before Christ returns ... is that unity? ... no, unfortunately it does not teach that. I love JB, though he and I see eye-to-eye on many things and disagree on other things, this is one we will disagree on since you brought it into the conversation."
No, this is a false belief. Jesus will return, to some who are expectant and to others who are not ready.
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Started a new thread in the forum using this comment that is also posted to your previous comment.
To clarify ... failing is not living in sin. Living in sin is to live in rebellion against God. We all stumble and fail, though that does not make it right or acceptable, but is still different from one who has looked at God ... His Word ... and chooses to ignore both and chooses to live the way they wish. Hope that helps clarify.
Added note: This rebellion could be in all areas of life or in specific areas of life.
Lord Bless,
LT