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Question from an Atheist.
Jeremiah 17:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Should you trust your heart in this case?
Romans 10:9 ...if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
So explain how the same book teaching you not to trust your heart also uses that same concept as the key to salvation. It seems I am required to "believe in my heart" but then admonished as foolish for trusting it.
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How would you answer this question?
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Permalink Reply by Amanda on
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We have to laugh at the situations. We laugh with people, not at them. Life is too serious, isn't it?
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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Roy, yes sir I remember that show. I loved it. He was so much better then the newer remake. Another thing I say is you have to laugh because if you didn't, you'd kill yourself. lolol
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Yes, I understood what u said about Roy. That's why I agreed with you in my statement. And you're also correct about the other part as well.
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Permalink Reply by RoyW on
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Janie,
You are correct but I will learn from this and be more careful with my words. Thank you for your kind words.
Roy
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Permalink Reply by ribbon on
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Tammy, I have to say I didn't take being called stupid by the teacher lightly. I told him that it took a stupid teacher to have a stupid student. We then had a few rounds in the principals office. I ended up kicked out of his class.
Roy Amanda and Tammy, Laughter is good medicine. :)
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it took a stupid teacher to have a stupid student
Now, that's funny. I don't blame u for not taking it lightly. That's totally messed up.
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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Wholehearted,
I understood Roy's post to be encouraging... I was very encouraged reading it.
When I first came to the Lord, there was a quote that kept sticking out in my mind...
"When a student is ready to learn, the teacher will always appear."
When I was at the point to be ready to come to the Lord, I understood at that time (though I had heard the message before).
It was only when I was ready that I understood that I was a great sinner and I needed a great Saviour.
From what I understood from Roy's post, he was telling me that.. It's like he was reminding me of how it was before I came to the Lord.... I was incredibly encouraged and energized by reading his post because it reminded me that a person may hear the gospel 100 x's and never respond.. But on the 101st time hearing it, maybe they will. When a student is READY to learn, the teacher will always appear.
Blessings, Carla
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Carla, as a teacher, I can say a big "Amen" to what you are saying. I get very excited when I see a student that is ready to learn. I know the Lord does as well. I hope that is the appearance I have give to Him. I am ready to learn. Excellent!
Roy
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Yes.. Amen. To be teachable is to be humble... But at the same time, we're not to be teachable for false teachings... but to stand for truth boldly. :-)
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Wholehearted,
I seen Roy saying that Atheists & Christians are bi-polar opposite. He didn't say they couldn't be taught. He was just using that analogy in showing the difference between the two. I also didn't see his statement as he was laughing at his students in a mocking way but he looked at them & they had that deer in the headlight look & he found it funny. As he continued to teach them they would have that light bulb over their head & say "Oh. That's what u was talking about." I totally think you misunderstood his words because he is far from self-righteous.
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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Calvin,
10. For with the heart we believe [327] unto righteousness, etc. This passage may help us to understand what justification by faith is; for it shows that righteousness then comes to us, when we embrace God's goodness offered to us in the gospel. We are then for this reason just, because we believe that God is propitious to us in Christ. But let us observe this, -- that the seat of faith is not in the head, (in cerebro -- in the brain,) but in the heart. Yet I would not contend about the part of the body in which faith is located: but as the word heart is often taken for a serious and sincere feeling, I would say that faith is a firm and effectual confidence, (fiducia -- trust, dependence,) and not a bare notion only.
With the mouth confession is made unto salvation It may seem strange, that he ascribes no part of our salvation to faith, as he had before so often testified, that we are saved by faith alone. But we ought not on this account to conclude that confession is the cause of our salvation. His design was only to show how God completes our salvation, even when he makes faith, which he implants in our hearts, to show itself by confession: nay, his simple object was, to mark out true faith, as that from which this fruit proceeds, lest any one should otherwise lay claim to the empty name of faith alone: for it ought so to kindle the heart with zeal for God's glory, as to force out its own flame. And surely, he who is justified has already obtained salvation: hence he no less believes with the heart unto salvation, than with the mouth makes a confession. You see that he has made this distinction, -- that he refers the cause of justification to faith, -- and that he then shows what is necessary to complete salvation; for no one can believe with the heart without confessing with the mouth: it is indeed a necessary consequence, but not that which assigns salvation to confession.
But let them see what answer they can give to Paul, who at this day proudly boast of some sort of imaginary faith, which, being content with the secrecy of the heart, neglect the confession of the mouth, as a matter superfluous and vain; for it is extremely puerile to say, that there is fire, when there is neither flame nor heat.
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