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Jesus & the Holy Spirit
Did Jesus wait to preach until He was 30 because that was when He become filled with the Spirit after baptism? But, Jesus is the Spirit, right? I've just been thinking about this lately and going back & forth with it. I must admit that I haven't looked into it deeper on my own but just wanted to see your thoughts on it. Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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He was teaching from the book of Isaiah but not really preaching. Remember Him telling His mother it wasn't His time yet?
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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There are varying views on this, as are on most subjects :-(
My understanding on this is as follows: Jesus is complete God and complete man. He is God who came to earth and took on human flesh. At the same time He left glory and veiled Himself. I believe He set an important example for us in that I believe He lived primarily as a man who was empowered by the Holy Spirit, meaning He rarely, if ever, called upon His own deity. Thus what we see is the power of the Holy Spirit working through Jesus the man, even though He is God, as He is able to work through any man according to the will of the Father. Now, for clarity, only Jesus could go to the cross for man's sins. This is a brief brief summary.
Hope that helps.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Thanks LT. I've never really heard it discussed before or seen it. I was just thinking about it this week. Like I said, I was too lazy to go dig deeper but thought I'd ask you guys thoughts.
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Permalink Reply by Amanda on
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Jesus was and is forever God incarnate. All my life I have believed Jesus lived from the strength of His divine nature and did miracles from it as well. I believed it wasn't that He didn't sin but that He couldn't sin because God by definition can't sin. I believed when Jesus left earth, He sent the Comforter in His place to help us and to fill us.
But I'm not so sure about this anymore. If Jesus did live and minister as a human only, then it means He was dependent upon the power of the Holy Spirit. If Jesus was both God and man on earth, then He used both natures. I believe if we adhere to the belief that Jesus lived and ministered as a human, dependent on the power of the Holy Spirit, then we must also adopt the belief that, as fully human, Jesus could have sinned, just as the first Adam could have sinned but of course He didn't sin because of His reliance on the power of the Holy Spirit. My only question is, was the power of the Holy Spirit availiable to help and keep the first Adam from sinning?
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then we must also adopt the belief that, as fully human, Jesus could have sinned, just as the first Adam could have sinned.
Why? He still had the divine nature.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Because the fact that we have a sin nature very often keeps the Holy Spirit from working through us as God worked through Jesus. If he was dependent upon the power of the Holy Spirit to do miracles, then why not for remaining sinless, just as we are? I never believed before that Jesus could have sinned. I always believed Jesus was impeccable. Now I am not so sure. I am trying to understand the two natures of Christ. To see if I've been wrong.
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Depending on the Holy Spirit would have been a choice the same as leaving heaven and veiling Himself. For God to be able to sin is not fathomable. Granted He was tempted, but the possibility that God, even operating in the flesh potentially sinning does not add up. There is a major difference in the first Adam and the second Adam. One was created in the image of God and the other is God.
Note: My position on this as stated above is a personal view and not something I teach as doctrine.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Did Jesus pick up where the first Adam ended or where the first Adam started? The first Adam was created innocent. Jesus was born without a sin nature. The first Adam chose to sin. Jesus was without error.
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In the age of innocence did Adam have a sin nature or is the sin nature the result of the fall and part of the change that came with "you shall surely die?"
Lord Bless,
LT
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Innocence means Adam didn't have a sin nature. But we do. Jesus didn't. When I hear people teaching that Jesus lived and ministered as a human only, and was dependent upon the power of the Holy Spirit, and that each of us should be able to do the same, it scares me because I know I fall far short of that.
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The key is not the perfect human, as we still live in the sinful flesh, but God does work through willing and submissive vessels. There is no contradiction between living a godly life led by the Holy Spirit while still living in the fallen flesh. Jesus did not have a fallen flesh to battle, but He did experience temptation. Did the Holy Spirit perform miracles through Peter and Paul as recorded in Scripture?
Please remember that I said, in essence, that He chose to live as a human and that He primarily operated as a man. He is not limited, but it is my "opinion" based on what I have read that He has set the prime example of what a fully surrendered person can accomplish as the Holy Spirit works in and through us. All miracles depend ont he power of God.
Lord Bless,
LT
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