Taking a Journey with the Apostle John – Part XIV

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Comment by Leonard T on April 8, 2015 at 12:57pm

This sounds like everything He suffered was for us, and if it was all heaped upon Him as He was standing in our place, then all of it was part of God's wrath on Him, as He was paying the penalty for our sins. Therefore, He faced the arrest, the arraignment, the hearing and trial, the sentencing, all for us, too, in our place, and not just the satisfaction of the judgment rendered against Him. 

I understand what you are saying and understand the concept. I personally do not see that articulated in Scripture for us, so to me it could be shared as an opinion, but not as a factual Biblical teaching., which is OK. I do that from time to time, but try to always make sure others understand when I am sharing only a view point.

Jesus didn't die spiritually, only physically, and since we still die physically, how are those two things reconciled with Him dying in our place?

Because of Jesus work of redemption we go from being spiritually dead to spiritually alive. The sacrifice did not require spiritual death, but rather a blood sacrifice for those who were already spiritually dead. His blood paid the redemptive price. We also know that it is appointed unto man to die once ... This flesh is going to die because that was the judgment of God laid upon man, and yet we will also receive new bodies where the perishable will be replaced with imperishable.

Comment by Leonard T on April 7, 2015 at 6:49pm

Yes, I get what you are saying. I am not sure as to when exactly, at what point, He began to bear our sins. I don't fully understand what that means. What I do know is what is said in Hebrews 12 which states:

Heb 12:2 NIV84 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

He saw past the cross. He saw the joy that was set before Him. The cross was only a point in time that He passed through on our behalf. I believe their is a beautiful truth and great encouragement here.

I think it is interesting to note that Jesus before Pilate told Pilate that he would have no authority if not given by the Father (loosely paraphrased). The opposite is true as well. Jesus was going to the cross. Pilate had no real authority to release Jesus either. Jesus was not going to miss the appointed cross. Man did not put Him there, though God used man, and man could not keep Him from the cross either. Food for thought.

Lord Bless,

LT

Comment by Leonard T on April 7, 2015 at 1:04pm

All that was required for redemption was accomplished through Jesus Christ. His body was broken (not bones) to open a new way for us. This is illustrated in the tearing of the curtain, but it goes a little further in that the curtain separated the holy place from a more common place. The Ark of the Covenant was kept in the original tabernacle in the holy of holies. This area was sectioned off from common man. Only the high priest entered here, and that only once a year. There was a segregation of God from man. This tearing of the curtain opens the access of man (who are now as children of God called a royal priesthood (2 Peter 2:9) to God. We no longer rely on a priest to enter on our behalf, Jesus entered on our behalf and opened the throne of grace to us (Heb. 4:14-16). The Bible also tells us that God will reestablish the tabernacle of David (Acts 15:16). What is interesting about this tabernacle (tent) is that it did not have any sides. It was basically a roof held up by poles and the Ark of the Covenant was visible to all who passed by ... no barriers.

The New Covenant opened for man a whole new relationship with the Father through Jesus the Son sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Lord Bless,

LT

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