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I understand that loneliness is individual, but there does seem to be alot of lonely individuals in the world, which is ironic in a way, the more of us the more loneliness. What is it we are looking for from each other and ourselves, that will take away this emptiness we seem to be experiencing. Are we unconsciously turning people away from our selves through our transference and projections??? I don't know.

Is loneliness a lack of faith in God or Jesus or any religion or in anything. Is loneliness a mental condition. Is it learnt behaviour. Is it something we all experience and have to endure sometimes, is loneliness different when we do have faith in God and Jesus. Is it different when we are forced in to isolation,  when we are on our own is it different from when we are in company.

I must admit I like my own company and love the company of others, but I can be so very lonely with both.

I think loneliness is the biggest test I seem to have when holding a conversations with God. What I mean is I don't have a reply yet.

I sometimes think, right from when I was a child. Jesus must have felt really lonely.

Is this just me and my perceptions and lesson to learn or do others feel like this?

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Comment by Hamm on December 15, 2011 at 12:26pm

Lol, I  is funny. I like steve Martin.

Comment by Hamm on December 14, 2011 at 3:51pm

Hi Char, thats exactlly what I percieve but only in regard to how I percieve reality.............

Hi Amanda lol. I must get this dvd.

 

Comment by Hamm on December 12, 2011 at 1:48pm

Hi Char, I hope can explain this even though I haven't seen the film. In the film the Jerk steve martin (Navin) is a white child adopted by a black family. Navin knows he is different and isn't fitting in with the family and their friends and associates. But his perceptions are that he will soon change the colour of his skin and be like the rest of his family. He is told by his mother that he has been adopted and in no other term told thathe is different and wont be able to change the colour of his skin. He is individual his perceptions/ beliefs were not true, but he didn't know this until he was told.

I hope that helps, its my perception what Amanda was saying.lol

I think we might be getting lost on the perceptions.

Comment by Hamm on December 12, 2011 at 12:22pm

Thanks Char and Amanda for your comments.

Amanda I love the the comments for the Jerk lol. I totally understand what you mean.

I think I understand what Char is saying about it doesn't matter what our perceptions are the Lord will make themn clear in his time which either reveal that our perceptions have been right or wrong. I understand totally what Amanda is saying that we need the bible and guidedance to help do the same thing. I believe that our perceptions are all that really matters in the moment. They are not always definite or finite they can change. We all experience life in our own ways even the Lord and Jesus we all have our own perceptions of what is said in the bible.  Until some one gives us some thing change our mind and perceptions. Which is our autonomy our freedom. I though being a christian is understanding this and accepting this. If we all had the same perceptions we would be no one individual we would be a collective. We all know that is not true, its why we are having this conversation. Lol. Its all good learning.

Comment by Hamm on December 11, 2011 at 1:22pm

Phew Lol, that is some saying. I wonder if you could say it quickly ten times without the words in front of you?

I definitly know God is testing me, Its my lack of understanding means I am not learning, which could mean I am not spiritually healing, which probably means I need to heal my emotions.

I have been asking Jesus to help with that. I will let you know when he does.

Maybe my perceptions of being healed are wrong, Maybe my perceptions love is wrong, maybe my perceptions of God and Jesus & the bible are wrong. Maybe my perceptions of humanity are wrong. I have tried many many times discussing this in my mind and I have thought with God....

Maybe I think to deep. Maybe I should just hold the end of the rope and see if Jesus pulls me in.

I hope my friend, your loneliness has lifted and left you,  its a thing of the past,I get the feeling Jesus is with you now and you deserve his blessings. Your discussions have demonsrated this so.

I am going to read the passages you have suggested. Thank you.

Comment by Hamm on December 11, 2011 at 10:47am

I agree loneliness comes from our perceptions. But what feeds our perceptions?

God might desire our companionship, he does experience everyone of us tough, he is omnipresent. I thought God can do anything. If he is experiencing me then he is hurting, he is confused, he will feel lost. He will feel rejected and numerous amount of other not very good emotions feelings etc. He can take that away or guide me and show me how I can take it away. Then that would be one less hurting human he is experiencing.

Comment by Hamm on December 10, 2011 at 3:47am

Thanks for your comments Amanda, Chris and Char.

All your words are so very poignant to what I experience and think. All your comments resonate and have lifted my cloud today.  THANK YOU. As Amanda written earlier;

"You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me" John 16:32

"The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you. "(2 Timothy 4:22) Thank you again.

Chris, I must admit even though my comments earlier said I don't seem to have had an answer from the Lord yet, I have gained some solice and comfort over the last eight years looking to/for Jesus and spirit.

Char I agree so much with what you say, I am so very guilty of reading the paper, watching the TV, googling the computer while people have tried to (especially my kids, bless them,) have tried to talk to me. Though I don't do it now, I am conscious of this now.

I agree Amanda that we all experience loneliness and that its different for each other.

When I am happy with myself I am not alone until I would like to share my happiness.

When I am down, sad or angry I don't want to share I want be alone, but then I think it would be nice for someone to cuddl,e to say the alternaive, give adifferent point of view. (If that makes sense?) The loneliness would go.

When I laugh when I am alone it doesn't seem to last as long when I am with friends.

 All my friends are married or in relationships and some have experienced long periods of being alone, but its seems I have the record... Which only adds to the loneliness on those bad days.

Comment by a servant (Chris) on December 9, 2011 at 5:07pm

Hamm

For me it is how I spend my time.  What I do is truly spend my time with the Lord.  I have found Comfort in the company of Holy Ghost.  I spend my time with the Spirit, in His Word, and in Prayer.  So what I mean w/ the Spirit is I talk and listen.  I am married, but when she is at work etc., my time for the most part is by myself.  However, I can say I do not feel lonely.  I do not really have friends around me.  I do have many friends here on AAG.  Yet, Brother I do understand where you are coming from. I have just long ago decided to get as close to God as I can, and He has come closer to me.

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