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Why do we go through what we do?

We often wonder and at times get angry or just discouraged by things we go through. However, God does have reason why we go through things. Why, do you think we go through the things we do?

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Permalink Reply by a servant (Chris) on July 11, 2012 at 9:52am

I believe the answer is found in 2Cor 1:3-11 3 All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort. 4 He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others. When they are troubled, we will be able to give them the same comfort God has given us. 5 For the more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with His comfort through Christ. 6 Even when we are weighed down with troubles, it is for your comfort and salvation! For when we ourselves are comforted, we will certainly comfort you. Then you can patiently endure the same things we suffer. 7 We are confident that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in the comfort God gives us. 8 We think you ought to know, dear brothers and sisters, about the trouble we went through in the province of Asia. We were crushed and overwhelmed beyond our ability to endure, and we thought we would never live through it. 9 In fact, we expected to die. But as a result, we stopped relying on ourselves and learned to rely only on God, who raises the dead. 10 And He did rescue us from mortal danger, and He will rescue us again. We have placed our confidence in Him, and He will continue to rescue us. 11 And you are helping us by praying for us. Then many people will give thanks because God has graciously answered so many prayers for our safety.

In v8 we may have all felt that way before, and even asked God, “why?” In v9 we see that once we stop relying on ourselves on begin to believe, have Faith in God. Those things we change. I myself have to say, I have a long way to go in that area. As we begin to understand we go through things so, we begin to operate in Faith. Then we are able to share that comfort we find in our Faith with others who are going through what ever it may be. Also, when we are troubled in certain areas, and another comes around telling them to just “believe more,” have “more Faith.” We all know that can fall flat. But, when we are able to share we have gone through the same thing they are now going through. And, to be able to share the comfort God has given them, and how it all came to pass then, it is easier to hear.

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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on July 11, 2012 at 10:53am

Chris,

I don't think that we should overlook our own thoughts and actions when we go through difficult times. We often bring on our own problems. We allow our minds to lead us in the wrong direction, going against what God wants for us. We imagine all kinds of things and some do come to pass as we imagine them.

⁶ And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

The Holy Bible : King James Version. electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version. Bellingham WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1995, S. Ge 11:6

This also goes for the bad things that we imagine in our minds.

We many times don't realize how our imaginations work for (or against)us.

I have a dear friend whose great nephew has gone through cancer, full year of chemo and all. He was freed of that and at the last check up, they found he has another tumor. He is not but 13 years old, yet his faith in God is allowing him to buoy the spirits of his parents and rest of family. His imaginings of God isn't going to allow the news to get him down even though the same news would devastate a grownup.

We need to remember, at all times and in all circumstances that God wants the very best for His children. He doesn't want us to got through devastating times, but sometimes we have other images of us going through bad times. Would your parents want you to be discouraged? I don't think so. I don't think He brings them on. I don't think He promotes them. If we are trusting in the Lord, nothing can hurt us. God does have our back!

I believe in God blessing me in all things, and so He does.

Blessings....

Rita

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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on July 11, 2012 at 1:48pm

¹⁴ Because he hath set his love upon ME, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. ¹⁵ He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. ¹⁶ With long^c life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

^c long...: Heb. length of days

The Holy Bible : King James Version. electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version. Bellingham WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1995, S. Ps 91:13-16

¹⁴ “Because he ^zholds fast to me in love, I will deliver him;

I will protect him, because he ^aknows my name.

¹⁵ When he ^bcalls to me, I will answer him;

I will be with him in trouble;

I will rescue him and ^chonor him.

¹⁶ With ^dlong life I will satisfy him

and ^eshow him my salvation.”

^z Deut. 7:7; 10:15

^a Ps. 9:10

^b Job 12:4; See Ps. 50:15

^c 1 Sam. 2:30; John 12:26

^d Ps. 21:4; Deut. 6:2; 1 Kgs. 3:14; Prov. 3:2, 16

^e Ps. 50:23; [Ps. 118:14, 21]

The Holy Bible : English Standard Version. Wheaton : Standard Bible Society, 2001, S. Ps 91:16

By these verses, I believe that God does all that He promises to do as long as I allow Him to do for me.

His reason for allowing us to go through some of the things that we do is because we won't allow Him to fix our problems. (Unbelief!)

Blessings...

Rita

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Permalink Reply by a servant (Chris) on July 11, 2012 at 7:17pm

. ..We were crushed and overwhelmed beyond our ability to endure, and we thought we would never live through it. 9 In fact, we expected to die. But as a result, we stopped relying on ourselves and learned to rely only on God, who raises the dead. 10 And He did rescue us from mortal danger, and He will rescue us again. We have placed our confidence in Him, and He will continue to rescue us. 11 And you are helping us by praying for us. Then many people will give thanks because God has graciously answered so many prayers for our safety.

Does the means justify the end? That seems to be answered here. Paul and Timothy were put in the situation to no longer rely on themselves. Did they bring this on themselves? Or, did they need the Knowledge that was gained. So to help them at that time, and the times to come. Giving them the ability to share with others believers, both then and now how to face hardships. As Paul tells us,"We have placed our confidence in Him, and He will continue to rescue us." No matter the reason, God will prepare us for what is to come. When a Faith becomes stronger from events we go through, all the Glory goes to the Lord.

One thing I believe Paul is telling us is, to humble ourselves before God, and the Lord will strengthen us in our weakness. I believe we are on the same page.

Lord Bless you Sister

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Permalink Reply by JB on July 11, 2012 at 8:45pm

When a Faith becomes stronger from events we go through, all the Glory goes to the Lord.

Does faith come by our experiences; or does it come by the Word of God?

Rom.10:17

I believe you will grow wiser and patient; through your events, Ja.1 says that the trying of your faith works patients, but let patients have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire wanting nothing. But if any man lacks “wisdom”, or ”If he lacks the understanding of why this thing is happening to him”; let him ask of God that gives “Wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of it” to all men liberally and upbraideth not, and it will be given to him; but let him ask in Faith nothing wavering; for he that wavers: is like a wave of the sea, driven by the wind and tossed; for let not that man think he will receive anything of the Lord.

So to me; my faith is built by the Word of God, so I can overcome the circumstances I encounter in life. Whatever is born of God over comes the world; and this is the victory that overcomes the world,; even our faith. 1Jo.5:4.

Joe

PS Their relying on God; was their faith in action.

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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on July 12, 2012 at 4:48am

Chris and Joe,

I would have to say that when someone isn't receiving from the Lord, that they are not actually not believing in Him enough to receive. A good verse would be "By His stripes you were healed". Most people take this to mean spiritual healing, but not physical... healing. I don't happen to believe that. I believe that His gifts to us are both spiritual and physical.

One situation is the 13 yr old boy (that I posted about in another topic) that is having to strengthen his family because another tumor had recently been found after a long grueling year through surgeries and chemo. His faith is truly awesome!

"He will give you the desires of your heart". If you will be growing from your gift , He will, indeed, give it. If what you desire will harm you, He will not give it.

What about the person you pray for to be healed from a disease. Is that prayer going to work if the person you are praying for doesn't believe? I say no. They have no faith for their own healing.

I have a friend whom I love dearly and have for over 40 years, yet....I never ask her to pray for me. Why not? Because she looks at everything from the failure side. She is a *what will be, will be* person.

Other people will ask for prayer but, in truth, they relish their own infirmities!

Another friend that *develops* illness when she hears another person has it. She is relying on herself to have that disease. I doubt a week goes by that she isn't have one test or another run...except for her annual week in the mountains.

These people that I mention are Christians, not nonbelievers. They do not believe what the Bible says.

These reasons aren't because God wants these folks to go through these problems. They have chosen them!

I believe others ask for problems as well. As I also posted before ....imagination is a strong thing. The stronger the image is in your mind, the more difficult it is to dispel it and replace it with good thoughts. Satan may put some of those thoughts on us but we allow them to grow.

Blessings, guys...

Rita

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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on July 18, 2012 at 9:04am

Char,

I actually wrote that wrong, should have said *they are actually not believing...*. God is in control but we have to allow Him to work in our lives. He will never ask us to relinquish our *free will*, therefore, we must allow Him.

Blessings.....