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What does Under Conviction mean?
I remember when I was going to church and listening to my Christian co-workers and a past friend about "conviction". I am now reading people mention the word here and sometimes on another site. I kind of understand what it means but I get confused about it. One reason ,I have a past friend who used to always steal from me. In appearance she seemed to be the holy of holiest of Christians. Eery time I would catch her stealing she would put on this crying defence and tell me that God forgave her that if I didn't , well that was my problem not hers. Truth is I forgave her every single time. She stole big from me. She would even go to ministries and give sob stories about my hardships and collect things from them on my behalf ( I did not give her permission to do this) and then if it was nice things she would tell me it looked like the cats drug it in. Later I find out these things the cat drug in were brand new straight from the stores and sitting all pretty in her home. I finally had enough , she had ripped me off more than I could count. She again cried and told me that she is happy I mentioned it because she was under conviction and she was sorry. She then again blurted God forgave her and if I didn't then so be it. Meanwhile while she was telling me this. She at the same time remained ripping me off with the cell phone bill. I gave her a chance to come clean " she didn't know I found out the truth" and she LIED and lied in front of another Christian. . After her calling me a liar and then me proving it was her lying and stealing again. She later told me that if God wanted her to pay me back He woud convict her. She said she felt good about her decision because she wasn't convicted. What the heck///.
Does conviction and having a feeling mean the same thing? If so I've been told many times that the bible says to not go by feelings.
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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Acts 19:13-16
13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” 14 Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”
16 Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
The reason I posted this Scripture was to show that just because you say you know the Lord doesn't mean He knows you. Many will say Lord Lord & He will say I don't know you. There are many things that we don't have to be convicted of just to know it's morally right or wrong. The Lord doesn't need to tell her to pay you for that phone. He figures she has sense enough to do it. I wouldn't want to show my face around you again the first time you caught me. Then, for her to continue to cheapen the Lord's forgiveness kinda infuriates me though I don't know her sob story. Anyways, on to conviction.
As I was looking deeper into conviction, I found the definition of sense of guilt & shame leading to repentance. As a Christian, the Holy Spirit dwells in us so when we sin, the Holy Spirit convicts us of that sin so we can repent. Dark and Light cannot dwell in the same space. The Light wins every time if you have chosen to make your heart His home. People can have convictions that don't come from the Lord which is things they know to be wrong morally.
In the New Testament, young ministers like Timothy and Titus had the responsibility of “convicting” (rebuking, refuting) those under their charge (1 Tim. 5:20; 2 Tim. 4:2; Titus 1:13; 2:15). John the Baptist “convicted” Herod Antipas because of his illicit marriage to Herodias, his brother’s wife (Luke 3:19). (LOGOS 5)
In the NKJV Luke 16:8-11 says: And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
These verses tell us conviction for sin is the result of the Holy Spirit making us aware to a sense of guilt and condemnation because of sin and unbelief. We then choose for ourselves what we want to do about that conviction. The conviction not only implies the exposure of sin but also a call to repentance.
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Permalink Reply by Mary O on
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Hi Janie, God bless you!
The word conviction has more than one meaning. Conviction can also mean...An unshakeable belief in something without proof or evidence. Like being totally convinced that God's word is truth.
Love,
Mary
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Permalink Reply by Seek on
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Matthew 18:15 "If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'
She's wearing her under conviction and forgive her as a crutch because she knows it works on you. She's using scripture, fight her with scripture.
Conviction means a person is truly sorry and wants to change. She isn't wanting change since after all this time, she's still engaging in the same behavior, and not so repentant and truly sorry that she can flippantly say "oh well if you don't forgive me, Jesus does anyway". She's using salvation and forgiveness as an out to not change her behavior. Rather than using it to motivate her to try to change. TRUE repentance would be her repaying what she took rather than simply saying forgive me over and over.
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I'm having trouble with my home computer. I meant to get back on the forum last night but couldn't.
Kind of watch out for your personal information. I had a bad experience with someone that I knew very well. I thought I could trust her. She stole my identity and ran up about $800 in credit charges. While the person I thought was a friend was enjoying vacation in Florida, the bills began to come in. At that time, in order for the bank to believe us, I had to file a police report. I regret having to file a report, but Gary and I didn't have that kind of money. I'm not saying this person will, but satan can tempt people. She's already compromised a lot. Her behavior is not okay and one excuse is as good as another. Do you think I'm harsh?
To this day, the person who was my friend has not said she was sorry. What she did set the tone for her family. Her son was recently arrested for stealing. They lost their section 8 because of it. Sin can make waves.
A couple good Bible verses:
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. (Ephesians 4:28)
Or Exodus 20:15...Thou shalt not steal.
Love,
Mary
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Permalink Reply by ribbon on
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Thanks y'all for taking time to explain what this means. I am thinking that when I first said the sinners prayer, , I didn't have any convictions of my sin. I also can remember a couple times after I backslid of possibly having conviction , it was a deep guilt feeling of something I did and didn't do I felt compassion momentarily for someone I had hated . I later brushed it off and felt sorrow for myself. My bad I know. I will reread what you all wrote and try to learn. Again thank you.
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Chip,
Thank you for telling me about this. This does help me to understand better. I am glad you shared,
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My name change is only temporal. Its all good. I was getting hurt by the continued use of the word self righteous even though I never thought of myself that way. I know I am self centered I have always put myself before God , but I am trying to change my mindset and die to self. I think self righteous and self centered are two different things though. I guess I thought if I changed it to SR then when I think someone is calling me that I will now pretend they are calling me that because of my AAG member name. Kind of like a long while ago , on one of the times I was so deeply depressed, I would sometimes write a hidy to someone on my friend list here in hopes of some kind of human contact. At the time I didn't have any at home. I live far from my children. Anyway , my point... it seemed I would never get a response back. SO , I deleted the people on my friend list and put my page on private. LOL that was stupid, like locking my door while knowing no one wants to come in. I am so unfocused now so I hope you can make out what I am saying. Thank you again , you seem to really care for people.
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SO , I deleted the people on my friend list and put my page on private. LOL that was stupid, like locking my door while knowing no one wants to come in.
So join the Stupid Club. I'm the head member.
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So join the Stupid Club. I'm the head member
LOL , And here I thought I was the only member.
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