THE PURPOSE OF JESUS CHRIST COMING ON EARTH

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Permalink Reply by Ananda Welikala on January 18, 2016 at 11:04pm

The Apostle Paul did not say that He used to be a sinner in that verse.  He said: "I AM ..."

If WE say we have no sins, we make God a liar (1st John. 1:10).   How so?  God says all human beings are sinners.  So by saying I am not a sinner, I make Him a liar.

Paul concurred with God!

Permalink Reply by Leonard T on January 18, 2016 at 11:48pm

That the best you have? 1) No doctrine is ever built on one verse ... Ever! 2) I repeat, which you seem to have missed or ignored, this is not about can a child of God commit a sin in the flesh, but rather is one a sinner (state of being). To be a sinner is to be of the old nature. A child of God has.been transformed and is growing in the image of Christ who is sinless. 3) No sinner Will enter heaven. Only those who are found holy and righreos will enter heaven, and that righteousness and holiness not of oneself, but rather that of our Lord Jesus which has been imputed into the child of God when we received the new nature at conversion. 4) our salvation is not based on the external, but rather on the internal transformation brought about by the Holy Spirit.

Permalink Reply by Leonard T on January 18, 2016 at 11:56pm

Ananda, are you a sinner or saint ( state of being)? Cannot be both.

Permalink Reply by Ananda Welikala on January 19, 2016 at 12:07am

There is no way a creature can be a creator of the same creature!

What did Saint Paul say about His own BORN-AGAIN experience with sin  in Rom. ch. 7 when he exclaimed: O wretched man...?

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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on January 19, 2016 at 12:24am

There is no way a creature can be a creator of the same creature!

This statement makes no sense! 

In Romans 6 and 7 Paul reveals his struggle with the flesh (not the spirit), but again you miss the whole point because you miss the context. You cannot understand Romans 6 and 7 if you do not read Romans 8. What does Paul say in Romans 8 about His born again life in Christ?

Also, you did not answer my question. I repeat:

Ananda, are you a sinner or saint ( state of being)? Cannot be both.

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Permalink Reply by Ananda Welikala on January 19, 2016 at 10:53pm

I, Ananda am a sinner, even though I am truly Born Again.  How do I know that I'm a sinner?  By my SINFUL thoughts, and words.  Even in my dreams I do sin, and besides,  I COVET, I get angry, I curse.  I don't love others as I love myself.  I don't LOVE God with ALL  my HEART, soul and spirit 24/7 as God has told me to.

Here's another way I sin:  

James 4:17

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is SIN.

Btw, I am extremely happy for those who don't sin anymore the way I have mentioned here!

Permalink Reply by Leonard T on January 20, 2016 at 3:28am

Your whole reply is based an an outward action, but that is not who the child of God is in the Spirit that has been redeemed and transformed. We, as new creations, live still in the fallen flesh and we will battle that flesh for the rest of this earthly life. One of our daily goals is to subdue this flesh daily. No one lives in the flesh without failing, but that failure does not make them a sinner (state of being). When God looks at me He does not see the external, but the internal which is a new spirit that has been made alive in Christ and united with the Holy Spirit. 

You cannot be a sinner and a saint at the same time ... we are one or the other and this position has nothing to do with externals, but rather with what has taken place in the spirit. Now it is true that not all who claim to be a Christian are really Christians (Mat. 7), but those who have been transformed will be growing in the like of Christ and begin demonstrating the Fruit of the Spirit, while at the same time engaging in that daily battle with the fallen flesh that will not see heaven.

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