The God of all Truth

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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on July 22, 2014 at 11:12am

Jacob had two defining moments (in relation to your question). One was while fleeing to Laban and the other while fleeing from Laban. These two accounts are found in Genesis 28:10-22 and 32:22-32. In the one He recognizes God as His God and the other He is basically seen as surrendering to God. What is often overlooked in the second account is that many view Jacob as beating the man (God), but if we carefully read it we find that he refused to let the man (God) go. The victor does not ask the loser to bless him. After the second event Jacob was a changed man, not perfect, but noticeably different.

We also must take into account God is bound to His promise(s). In this case God had made a covenant with Abraham that flows through Jacob. Jacob was a marked man and God was going to use Him and over time He broke Him to the point were his name is changed. Thus, with God time is not as relevant as it is to us, for He sees the beginning from the end.

Another question is what is a blessing? Does God know exactly what we need in order for Him to reach us? What appears as a blessing to man, based on man's value system, can simply be a tool in God's hand to bring about what He wants in the end. All that God did in Jacob's life accomplished the two-fold purpose of using Jacob and reaching Jacob. In all that "blessing" he still feared Laban, a man who was basically his match at deception and bait and switch.

And still another great question is to define the word truth. Is it synonymous with honesty, reality, or ??? Thus, our goal would be here, as in the case of many words, is to seek out a biblical definition of truth and not attempt to apply a human definition. Food for thought.

Lastly, and not meant to confuse, but here we see God bless (based on man's view) the deceiver and bring about the change God sought and over in the Book of Job we see Satan have access to a man who was viewed as right with God. God's ways are beyond us fully figuring out, but in both cases God's plan and purpose were fulfilled. Therefore we can learn to bless God in and out of the storm as long as we trust He is in absolute control.

Lord Bless,

LT

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Permalink Reply by Seek on July 22, 2014 at 11:29am

Well when the Bible relates accounts of God "blessing", it usually states that they prospered in everything.  Like Laban's flock prospering while Jacob was there, and accounts of others who it seemed everything they touched prospered.  Or blessed a woman with a child she was wanting.  But blessings usually are referring to providing something requested or prospering someone. 

The bit about our truth and God's maybe differing is one of the things I was wondering about.  And the part about Abraham, I also had wondered if perhaps that had a lot to do with it.  But I'm wondering if it was more to do with the lineage to come, as with your mentioning Job.  God had a purpose to allow what He did in Job's life, and so perhaps there was the purpose of the future from Jacob is why God blessed him.

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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on July 22, 2014 at 12:15pm

If we go with what you have said we can then state that usually does not mean always and therefore there are other applications possible.

Lord Bless,

LT

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Permalink Reply by Seek on July 22, 2014 at 1:20pm

Ok, can you not use sentences I have to read three times before I figure out what you said?  LOL

These are all things I wondered but wasn't sure if there was some explanation that I wasn't seeing. 

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Permalink Reply by Mary O on July 22, 2014 at 11:25am

Hi Seek, God bless you!

Esau gave up his birth right in Genesis 25:34.  In Genesis 36:2 Esau took wives from the women of Canaan. In Genesis 27:46, Rebekah admits that she hates the women of the land. They were very idolatrous people. If Esau hadn't married with the Canaanites, he may have eventually married Leah. As it was, God gave it all to Jacob.  God loved Jacob, but hated Esau. God eventually called Jacob Israel. Genesis 32:28.

Love,

Mary

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Permalink Reply by Jones on August 28, 2014 at 3:54pm

hi Seek Ye First, personally, I hold a strong view of God's justice, and that he cannot change what he said because he is not afraid of any person. The truth is that as Rom 9:14 puts it that God is Just, so if anywhere in scriptures we seem to see God being "Unjust" then it is our understanding of the verse or of God's nature that is the problem and not God himself.

Now let me ask you a question, if God had not told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit in the middle of the garden, and it happened that they ate it ignorantly, will God had punished them?

The Bible states that where there is no law, there is no sin, Jacob was ignorant of the law concerning adultery, vengeance. He lived before the law was given, i.e. before Israel's Exodus from Egypt and the covenant God gave Moses' that included the laws.  

But as for David he new very well the laws of God, that is why he felt guilty after what he had done.

I hope it helps, but if i myself have gone wrong, then i'll plead with AAG to correct me, am open to critics

with Love, God bless u all richly

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Permalink Reply by Seek on August 28, 2014 at 6:14pm

I don't know if it's wrong or right but it's something I've never seen before and scripture does say there's no sin when there's no law. Interesting.

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