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REGENERATION?
Does regeneration occurs before we are saved or after? If we receive the Holy Spirit after we are saved, how can regeneration occurs before we are saved? Yet, God draws us to Christ.
If we can't come to Christ on our own, then we need a regenerated heart to do it.
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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Raul,
Regeneration is the act of being transformed, born-again. There is a process in which we all must go through. We first experience the repentance process which includes illumination and conviction by the Holy Spirit that culminates with us asking for forgiveness and receiving Jesus as our Savior. We in turn are justified (found guiltless because He paid our debt, our penalty). We then experience the spiritual transformation that is called regeneration. We become a child of God, marked, sealed and indwelt by the Holy Spirit. We begin as babes in this new spiritual life and need to enter into the sanctification process which is a lifelong journey of growing in maturity (holiness) becoming more Christ-like day-by-day. At the end of our journey we will experience glorification. This is when our old bodies are transformed and we are given the eternal body.
One way of looking at this:
justification/regeneration + sanctification + glorification = full, whole or complete salvation. Our complete salvation is guarnateed at the justification/regeneration stage and fully experienced at the glorification stage.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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LT, Yes, this is what I personally experienced. The only thing I would add, is that when God showed me my sin and I was repenting, HE was lavishing His love on me at the same time. I was not condemned.. HE was just showing me my sin, His Holiness, and Righteousness, and my need for a Saviour, at the same time God showed His Love for me and forgiveness.. It all kindof happened at the same time. I don't think they can be separated, at least they weren't for me.
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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Check these vids pana,
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Here is another view of regeneration.
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Bro Raul I am glad you liked them - I agree with what you have stated, but just for clarity's sake, I want to make it clear that though there are many false converts made by the preching of distorted gospels (prosperity message etc), God does in His mercy, grace and decreed arranges the salvation of many, even through our imperfections. God is so good. Evangelicals, Baptists, pentecostal's etc We are all one in Christ. I know you know that, but is good to say it.
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Permalink Reply by LucyP on
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I don't know if here in England we have a different view of the name evangelical Christians. I agree fully about the false teachings of many 'supposed pastors', particularly the one mentioned by David on ''give to receive'' , rather than from your heart. This is preached on nearly every TV sermon I seem to see(apart from Revelation TV I might add). So sad.
However, should we have new visitors who may, like me, have a saved family member who calls themselves an evangelical christian, and does not hold with these 'erroneous views', I would not want them to feel something's wrong with that and would kindly direct them to the following.
http://www.gotquestions.org/evangelical-Christian.html.
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Amen Raul, I was enjoying sermons from one such preacher and when I went through his other stuff found he preached that everyone who is saved can speak in tongues. It upset me that he should distort the gospel so.
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Oh, I believe we all get different spiritual gifts, I have prayed in tongues but anyway was just using an example, didn't mean to start a discussion on tongue as there is 2 huge ones on AAG already as I'm sure a moderator will be kind enough to point out hehe. night my brothers and sisters. love you in Jesus name.
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Pana,
Our theology is very similar but we do believe different when it comes to the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I do not see anywhere in scripture where it is said that the gifts will come to an end while the body/the church remains on the earth and I have studied the 1 Cor. 13:8 passage.
There are very good discussions in our archived about this and this discussion is one that deals with a deep topic already, so we do best to start another one if you would like to discuss the issue of Spiritual gifts further.
I don't ever grow weary of looking at the subjects a knew.
Love and blessings to you man of God.
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Permalink Reply by dean burrows on
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isn't regeneration the act of becomimg regenerated
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