JOEL OSTEEN

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Permalink Reply by jamie allen lindsey on February 10, 2010 at 11:48am

THE THING WITH ME IS PREACHERS SHOULD BE PREACHING THE GOSPEL AS NEVER BEFORE AND NOW DAYS HAVE THE MEANS! THIS WORLD IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE,IT NEEDS TO HEAR THE PLAN OF SALVATION LIKE NEVER BEFORE. TOO MANY ARE GOING TO THE SYMPTOMS OF THE PROBLEM...[ABORTION,DRUGS/ALCOHOL,SEXUAL PROBLEMS ON AND ON] WHEN IF WE GET FOLKS TO JESUS THE DARK WILL FLEE!! LIKE A LINE FROM A OLD SONG GOES "YOU DON'T DRIVE OUT THE DARK YOU JUST TURN ON THE LIGHT!!!!"" I AM A MAN WITH NOT MUCH MONEY .THAT IS FINE!!! I GOD PROVIDES ME WITH WHAT ME AND MY WONDERFUL WIFE NEEDS!! I DON'T NEED MORE,MORE,MORE EXCEPT MORE,MORE,MORE CLOSER TO DOING THE WILL OF GOD! MONEY CAN NOT BUY THAT AND TO "PREACH" MORE WELTH IS NOT PREACHING AT ALL! I LOVE JOEL,JUSTTHINK HE IS MISSING A GREAT OPPOTUNITY TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO MILLIONS!!


THAT GOES FOR OTHERS ON T. V. WHAT AN OPPOTUNITY THEY HAVE! I HEARD PAT ROBINSON'S SON SAY THE OTHER DAY HE HOPE A CERTAIN STOCK DID GREAT CAUSE HE OWNED SOME OF IT. WHERE DOES HE WORK TO BUY THIS STOCK? A FEW DAYS LATER HE WAS ON THE 700 CLUB TELETHON. PAT HAS SAID HE IS NO TELE-EVAGELIST,WHY NOT? MAN I REMEMBER IN THE EARLY 70S ALL THEY TALKED ABOUT ON THAT SHOW WAS JESUS AND ONE PERSON AFTER ANOTHER GIVING THEIR TESTEMONY AS TO WHAT GOD HAD DONE IN THEIR LIFE AND HOW THEY HAD BECOME A CHRISTIAN! I WATCHED THE 700 CLUB CONSTANTLY. IT CHANGED...SAD...NOW MOST OF THE CONTENT IS POLITICAL [WHICH NO MATERR WHAT YOU ARE DEM.,REP.,IND.,IT AIN'T GONNA GET YOU TO HEAVEN!] I AM ONLY SAYING WHAT A GREAT TIME FOR SOME ONE LIKE BILLY GRAHAM TO PREACH THE GOSPEL AND NOTHING ,BUT THE GOSPEL AS BILLY ALWAYS DID. HE WOULD USE WHAT EVER WAS GOING ON AT THE TIME SO PEOPLE COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS SAYING,BUT IT WAS ALWAYS JESUS,JESUS,JESUS! NOW LETS PRAY FOR JOEL,PAT AND ALL THAT GOD WILL USE THEM IN A MIGHTY WAY IN GETTING SOULS SAVED!!! AS FOR THE RICH...THAT IS COOL ,SOME ARE CHRISTIANS I BELIEVE! JESUS DID SAY THOUGH THEIR REWARD THEY HAVE ALREADY ON EARTH! I WILL JUST WAIT FOR MINE THANK YOU AND AMEN!! LOVE~JAMIE

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Permalink Reply by Gayla on February 10, 2010 at 1:00pm

God called him, and he did not want to answer the call, but, God persuaded him, and it is God that fills that mighty stadium, week after week after week. He has a message that is unique to him.

Be blessed by his differentness.

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Permalink Reply by Ron Payne on February 10, 2010 at 10:30pm

Hi Jamie,
re: your latest input. Is this an "About Face" to what you wrote before?
I quote you on what you said:
AIN'T TRYING TO BE MEAN ,BUT HAS ANY BODY EVER SEEN THE T. V. PREACHER JOEL OSTEEN PREACH THE "GOSPEL"? WHEN I SAY GOSPEL I MEAN PREACHING BOUT JESUS BEING BORN A VIRGIN,DYING ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS AND BEING RAISED FROM THE DEAD BY OUR FATHER?ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS OF OUR SINS AND ASKING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST INTO OUR LIVES AND BECOME OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! THERE IS SALVATION IN THAT,BUT NOT HEARING HOW SUCESSFUL YOU CAN BE !SUCESSFUL MONEY WISE ON THIS EARTH? IS IT NOT DANGEREOUS FOR A PREACHER TO NOT TELL THE GOSPEL? HOW CAN A PERSON BECOME A CHRISTIAN FROM SUCH "PREACHING"? "IF A MAN GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL...." BILLY GRAHAM [WHO ALWAYS GAVE THE PLAN OF SALVATION WHEN EVER I HEARD HIM} HAD HIS PICTURE WITH JOEL,BUT DID HE KNOW WHAT JOEL PREACHED? HE IS PRETTY OLD AND MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN. WE HAVE ALL HEARD HOW MANY DIFFERENT SINS WILL BRING DOWN THE USA,BUT HAS ANY BODY HEARD ONE PREACHER TALK ABOUT GREED AND THAT "THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL"? I AM NOT AGAINST A CHRISTIAN HAVING MONEY! JUST DON'T SAY ALL CHRISTIANS SHOULD HAVE LOTS OF MONEY ETC CAUSE THAT IS GOD'S WILL ,OTHERWISE SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG WITH THE WAY YOU BELIEVE! ! I PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL HELP JOEL KNOW TO PREACH THE GOSPEL ! GOING TO HEAVEN IS ALL IMPORTANT! ,MAY THE LORD TAKE JOEL OSTEEN AND MAKE HIM A GREAT PREACHER OF THE GOSPEL AND MILLIONS COME TO KNOW OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ,EVEN IF THEY LIVE ON THE STREETS! AGREE- DISAGREE? LET ME KNOW! JAMIE

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Permalink Reply by Ron Payne on February 10, 2010 at 11:43pm

My Apologies - I got mixed up between James and Jamie - Please Ignore my last input on this subject.
Ron

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Permalink Reply by jamie allen lindsey on February 11, 2010 at 5:39pm

THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING ANY THING BUT PREACHERS NEED TO PREACH THE GOSPEL! IT IS NOT JUST DIRECTED TOWARDS JOEL,THOUGH THAT IS WHO I STARTED OUT WITH! WE DO NOT NEED TO BE DIVIDED! WE NEED TO BE OF ONE MIND AND ONE ACCORD! THAT IS WHEN SOMETHING GREAT HAPPENS! PAUL SAYS TO PREACH IN SEASON AND OUT OF SEASON,BUT HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE GOSPEL! ONLY PREACHING THE GOSPEL WILL ANY ONE GET SAVED! IF YOU LIKE JOEL ,GREAT! PLEASE DON'T THINK THOUGH HE IS PREACHING THE GOSPEL THOUGH! ONE MORE TIME..WHO ON HERE HAS BEEN SAVED AS A RESULT OF HIS "PREACHING"? GIVE YOUR TESTIMONY! MY POINT OVER AND OVER IS IN THIS DAY AND TIME PREACHERS CAN REACH MORE PEOPLE THEN ANY TIME IN HISTORY! ALL I ASK IS WHAT DO YOU THINK PAUL [OF THE BIBLE] WOULD BE PREACHING IF HE WERE HERE TODAY? PETER? ON AND ON! I TELL YOU WHAT IT WOULD BE: JESUS CAME TO EARTH BY CHOICE,HE WAS TEMPTED AS ALL ARE,HE NEVER SINNED,HE WAS CRUCIFIED,HIS BLOOD IS OUR SALVATION,HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD SO WE CAN GO INTO THE HOLY OF HOLIES AND TALK DIRECTLY TO GOD THROUGH OUR JESUS!! THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE PREACHED! THE WORLD IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE,BUT MANY WANT ONLY TO HEAR "POSITIVE SPEAKING" ....GREAT! WHAT IS MORE POSITIVE THEN THE "GOOD NEWS"?

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Permalink Reply by jamie allen lindsey on February 12, 2010 at 1:49pm

ANY ONE THAT ENJOYS HEARING JOEL...WELL THAT IS FINE! NO SIN IN IT....JUST KNOW HE SHOULD BE PREACING THE GOSPEL.

NONE OF THE DICIPLES WERE RICH[MATTHEW WAS A TAX COLLECTOR...BEFORE HE FOLLOWED JESUS!] SURELY NONE OF US ARE ANY CLOSER TO HIM THEN THEY WERE! SURELY IF IT WAS MEANT FOR CHRISTIANS TO HAVE WEALTH THEY WOULD HAVE...GOD DON'T CHANGE! NOW AIN'T NOTHING WRONG WITH MONEY,BUT THE LOVE OF IT AND YOU CAN NOT SERVE IT AND GOD TOO.

I TURN ALL THE PREACHERS OFF AT THE END CAUSE THEY ALL GOTTA HAWK ...WHAT EVER ./MANY SAY GOD WILL GIVE YOU MUCH MORE MONEY IF YOU WILL SEND THEM SOME!!!

ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE THE GOSPEL A CHANCE ! THEN MANY WILL HEAR,THEN MANY WILL BEGAN TO GET SAVED,THEN WE WILL HAVE A GREAT REVIVAL LIKE WE HAD IN THE EARLY 70S WHERE MULTITUDES CAME TO JESUS,INCLUDING ME ,CAUSE I WAS GOING TO CHURCH WITH MY GIRL FRIEND AND THE PREACHER PREACHED THE GOSPEL,IT CONVICTED MY HEART AND I GOT ON MY KNEES AND BEGGED FORGIVENESS AND ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO MY HEART AND LIFE AND HE DID AND STILL RESIDES WITH ME AS HE SAID ...LISTEN TO THIS CLOSELY ..."BE CONTENT WITH SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE [GET THAT PART?] FOR HE HATH SAID I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU"!

HE HAS TO BE IN YOU FOR HIM NOT TO LEAVE OR FORSAKE YOU!!! WE ARE SAVED BY HEARING "THE WORD" NOT JUST ANY OLE WORDS ,BUT JESUS AND JESUS ONLY AS IT PLAINLY SAYS HE IS "THE WORD".

NOW IF A GREAT REVIVAL BREAKS OUT AND THE LORD COMES INTO SO MANY HEARTS IN THE USA AND AROUND THE WORLD THEN YOU WILL SEE A GREAT CHANGE! IT CANNOT BE LEGISLATED,ONLY ALMIGHTY GOD CAN MAKE A CHANGE AND IT STARTS WITH THE "GOSPEL "BEING PREACHED!!!! JESUS SAID ..."WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS,THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE"!

MY TREASURE AIN'T OF THIS WORLD,MY TREASURE IS JESUS!!! AGAIN HAVING MONEY AIN'T NO SIN,BUT PREACHING CAUSE YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD THEN YOU WILL/SHOULD BE WEALTHY IF YOU WILL ONLY GET YOUR MIND RIGHT IS WRONG! IT SAYS TO "BE TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND" BUT THAT IS TALKING BOUT SPIRITUAL THINGS!

IF YOU GO AROUND LIKE JOEL SAYS AND THINK POSITIVE THOUGHTS BOUT MONEY THINGS ETC. THEN HOW YOU GONNA BE THINKING JESUS AT THE SAME TIME??? NO ONE CAN HAVE TWO THOUGHTS GOING AT THE SAME TIME!

WE HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ALL OVER THIS WORLD,SOME BEING TORTURED TO DEATH CAUSE OF THEY BEING CHRISTIANS,SOME STARVING,BUT WE ALL WANT TO THINK HAPPY THOUGHTS BOUT WEALTH?

OUR "GREAT FRIEND" AND "ALLIE" SAUDIE ARABIA IS LISTED AS THE THIRD WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TO BE A CHRISTIAN IN! WE SELL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OUT IN THIS AND OTHER COUNTRY FOR....OIL!!! YOU THINK GOD WILL KEEP BLESSING US?

WELL THAT IS ANOTHER STORY,BUT IF YOU LIKE MY WIFE AND ME,GOT LITTLE MONEY BUT GREAT LOVE AND BOTH LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR BEING AND PRAY FOR OTHERS AND DO FOR OTHERS,I SAY THAT IS WEALTH!!!! I WILL BE LIVING IN A MANSION ONE FINE DAY..I CAN WAIT...I WILL BE AN HEIR AND A JOINT HEIR WITH MY LORD JESUS ONE FINE DAY...I CAN WAIT,BUT THE GOSPEL BEING PREACHED HERE AND NOW CAN WAIT NO LONGER! IT IS TIME FOR CHRISTIANS TO FORGET "TEA BAGS" AND GET OUR MINDS ON THE LORD AND THE PREACHING OF HIS WORD AND ALL BE OF ONE MIND AND ONE ACCORD THEN WE WILL SEE "CHANGE"!! REAL CHANGE!!! LOVE~JAMIE

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Permalink Reply by Ron Payne on February 13, 2010 at 9:43am

I judge a man who attempts to preach about Christ, by what he can tell me from scripture. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
When a preacher waffles on the Biblical process which teaches the only way of salvation, then I switch off. When a man waffles on this point it is because he himself is unsure and insecure. Insecurity shows that he has yet to be filled with the Holy Spirit. The world is full of preachers who can say the most marvellous things, but fail on the truths that count most.
Watch Joel falter, bluster and waffle in his interview with Larry King Live on YouTube. There was an opportunity to REALLY preach the Gospel, preach Christ and Him crucified for the sins of mankind and Joel blew it . When Larry tried to edge him on with a bit of correction his reply was " I just don't know." There is no conviction in Joel who also said: "I just don't believe it."
How much clearer can the gospel be when Jesus said: " Joh 14:6 " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. See both interviews with Larry on YouTube.
I am certain that if their was a form of "Gospel exam" by his Peers, before allowing anyone to Preach in any venue, Joel would at present be disqualified. Sadly such men may present a sugar coated gospel, where the raw truth of the cross is avoided as the only way. The blood is watered down to a fancy colour pink. I judge Joel by his inability to say anything else except "I don't know".
Ron.

Permalink Reply by jamie allen lindsey on February 13, 2010 at 7:53pm

I WANT TO THANK ALL FOR NOT GETTING MEAN TOWARDS EACH OTHER,AS IT SHOULD BE AMONG US! FROM ALL READ WE BASICALLY TO AGREE TO DISAGREE!! THAT IS GREAT CAUSE ALL VEIWS GET OUT AND WE CAN STILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER!! THAT AND THIS MAKES ME HAPPY! I HAVE NEVER EVER KNOWN ANOTHER HUMAN THAT WE AGREED ON ANY AND EVERY THING!!! BUT....WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT JESUS IS SAVIOR,LORD,MASTER,THE ROSE OF SHARON,THE LILLY OF THE VALLEY AND THE KING OF KINGS.HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER AND SALVATION THROUGH HIS SHEDING OF BLOOD ON THE CROSS AND HIS RESURRECTION! I LOVE YOU ALL! PRAY FOR US AS WE WILL YALL!! LOVE~JAMIE

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Permalink Reply by Theresa on February 13, 2010 at 10:21pm

Thank You my Heavenly Father for Your promise to Joel Osteen that You alone accomplished by Your name and Your shed Blood, thank you Lord that You are the glory and the lifter of Joel's head and the defense of his life and the life of all who are in big ministries like Joel, thank You Lord for turning what the devil meant for evil toward Joel, that You will turn for his good in Your Mighty name Jesus I pray. Thank You Father God for Your Holy True Word that does not lie, and it does not deceive, thank you Father God for protecting Joel from all evil even this minute as I ask You to protect him in the Mighty Powerful name that is above all names, the name of Jesus.

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Permalink Reply by jamie allen lindsey on February 14, 2010 at 8:21pm

BROTHER I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT WAS IT ABOUT "YOU". ANY THING I HAVE WRITTEN WAS AGAINST NO ONE,JUST THAT PREACHERS ,IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE,NEED TO PREACH THE GOSPLE SO PEOPLE WILL COME TO KNOW THE LORD. ONLY PREACHING ABOUT CHRIST AND HIS BLOOD AND RESURECTION CAN DO THIS,NOT TALKING BOUT BEING POSITIVE SO YOU CAN HAVE WEALTH.

AS I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER PREACHERS CAN REACH MORE PEOPLE NOW THEN IN ALL OF HISTORY AND TO MY HUMBLE OPINION MANY ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO MANY INSTEAD HAVE BUILT UNIVERSITIES,CHRISTIAN THEME PARKS...FINE...BUT DON'T SAY YOU ARE A PREACHER OF THE GOSPEL! NOTHING I HAVE SAID HAS BEEN DIRECTED AT NO ONE,IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ME...GREAT! I AM JUST OF THE OPINION THESE ARE THE LAST OF THE LAST DAYS AND WE NEED TO GET AS MANY ON THE ARK [WITH JESUS] AS WE CAN! THIS IS THE 11TH HOUR AND I BELIEVE THE 12TH IS COMING FAST!

IF PREACHERS WOULD ONLY PREACH JESUS THEN MAYBE A REVIVAL CAN START AND MAYBE A REVIVAL COULD EVEN START IN THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!! WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL? INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THE LOVE AND GRACE OF OUR LORD COULD CHANGE THEIR HEARTS!!WOW!

I BELIEVE IT COULD BE IF WE ALL PRAY FOR IT! GOD CAN DO ANY THING SO LETS NOT UNDERESTIMATE HIM AND RELY JUST ON OUR MIGHT!!! NO BROTHER I WAS NOT TALKING BOUT YOU! GOD BLESS YOU AND PRAY FOR ME!!!~JAMIE

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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on August 26, 2012 at 7:49pm

Unfortunately Chris even preachers like Billy have drastically change now, when he speaks of the gospel he preached in the past, he now refers to his old message as antiquated and not  completly theologically correct. It is sad what's happennig among some Christian leaders, but God always has a remnant.

 

 

John states that to Joel the word of God is that word that God speaks to us directly, but to be fair to Joel, he does believe that the bible is the word of God, as well as the word God speaks to us directly, which is not wrong, for God does speak to our inner person. I have watched Joel plenty, but I agree with John of the damage the prosperity message causes in the body.

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Permalink Reply by JB on August 26, 2012 at 10:39pm

David, it is unbelievable to me that anyone with a consciousness toward God and knowledge of the New Creation; could be swayed by a word twisting intellect such as the last two videos you have posted on this web site; Concerning the condemnation of another brother’s belief or interpretation of the Word of God.
May God have mercy on their souls as they stand before the righteous judge.
Maybe it would do them good to study the following scriptures.
1) Romans 14:12-13 (KJV)

2) James 4:11 (KJV)

against belittling others and passing rash judgments on our neighbors
3) James 5:9 (KJV)

I am trying to speak this (truth) this Word in Love.
Joe

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