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Is God's grace sufficient?
A question that has been bugging me for a while is this. If a person in the remotest jungle dies without hearing about salvation or the Lord Jesus Christ will he automatically spend eternity in hell. I know what Romans 1:20 states about nature displaying God's glory and Jesus saying that He is the Way the Tuth and the Light. No man comes to the Father but by Me. I'm totally convinced about that. And to that I say Amen. But am I missing something significant that could lead me to some other conclusion? Please comment on this delema of mine.
Thanking you in Jesus Name
Kevin
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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Excellent question -
You were so close to the answer.
Romans 2:6 God "will give to each person according to what he has done." ...12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
John 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world
You see bro God gives light to every man through general revelation (as you have stated Rom. 1:20) and through the conscience. Our God is gracious. I personally believe that the above verses are talking about the person you describe. Someone who never hears the Gospel, but through their God given conscience chooses what is pleasing to God and He will judge them accordingly.
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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Kevin,
AC 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
RO 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
RO 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
RO 10:11 As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
RO 10:12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
RO 10:13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
RO 10:14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
RO 10:15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
RO 10:16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our message?"
RO 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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Ecclesiastes 3:11 (NIV)
11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
If a person is in the jungle, and speaks to God because of what they have seen in creation, and they ask God to reveal who HE is to them, I believe that God will make Himself known to them in the way that HE chooses.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
If God is sending a person to preach to these corners of the earth (and HE is) It is up to the one(s) being sent to be obedient.
as LT already posted:
RO 10:15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
Blessings, Carla
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Permalink Reply by Imperator on
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My dear brother Kevin,
Here's my 1 1/2 cents worth.
Jesus ordered His desciples to go and preach the Gospel to all the nations of the world. Did they fail?
As for someone living in the jungle and living the life they have lived for many many years how can they be found guilty of not worshipping the Father? If you do not bring up your children in the Christian faith how will they know any different?
I believe these innocent and poor souls will not be judged. We have failed miserably because we, as Christians, did not do our job properly. Presently, satan is thwarting the efforts of missionaries in trying to reach these heathen communities.
It is not their fault that they know absolutely nothing about our Lord, it is ours.
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Oh and people like LT who claims to know it all and is a pastor and living a comfortable life in America criticise and preach to us on the net but they do not do the next step and go out preach to these unfortunates who has never heard the good news.
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Imperator,
Hahaha ... you are so funny. You know nothing about me. You kow nothing about who I am or where I have been. You know nothing about who God has given me the privilege to minister to and where. You have know idea of who my ministry in the flesh and on the interenet, not limited to AAG, reaches. If I were to tell you how God is using my ministry to help reach the world you would call me a know it all prideful person. I will not give you that pleasure nor let you steal my joy.
You know nothing about me yet you attempt to judge me. Hahaha. if your judgment mattered I would be AFRAID. But, since you are not God and are not the one who guides me I wil continue to be LT and be amused by the people who attack me and others who stand for truth.
Oh, by the way ... did you notice that you keep attacking me and you are still here. Hmmm, I guess we really do arbitraily kick people of this site because they disagree with us ... NOT.
Hack away, my armor is thick and your weapons puny.
LT
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Psa 118:6 The LORD [is] on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
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Hey Imperator,
I have a novel idea for you. Try addressing my comments that you find in error and so offensive instaed of trying to attack me personally. That tactic never works, at least on me.
LT
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Permalink Reply by Sharon Theresa Theil on
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Imperator,
Your personal attack on LT is completely baseless, uncalled for, and UN-Christian.
1 John 4:20
"If a man say he love God and hateth his brother, he is a liar, for he who hath not love his brother who he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?"
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My dear sister Jessica,
I will apologise wholeheartedly for upsetting you. Now stop persecuting me. :)
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My dear sister Jessica,
Thank you very much and God bless you and keep you safe sister. Peace and love.
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Imperator,
Since you and I have been in numerous disagreements I hesitate to ban you for your latest unacceptable activity. I am informing you that I want you to not post anything on AAG for 24 hours in order to give Greg the opportunity to review what has transpired. If you do not heed this warning and insist on posting before the times lapses I will ban you without further comment.
LT
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