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Christianity means Sainthood?
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Permalink Reply by Coffee Lover on
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I think it comes about as a result of a mis-understanding or lack of knowledge about scripture and what being a Christian actually means. Generally, people with the mindset you describe pick out Matthew 7:1-2;
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you"
Thing is, you need to use your judgement to discern right from wrong among a whole host of other aspects of life we need to use judgement for. The passage "be slow to anger" (the exact passage escapes me) is also used to say Christians shouldn't get angry, all the while forgetting Jesus in the temple when he threw the traders out and tipped over tables. He was angry but he didn't let it control him or get out of hand.
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Permalink Reply by Jenny on
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just want to point out too, that the anger of Jesus in the temple can rightly be called a "righteous anger", not on the same level with common human anger
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i don't know, but it seems that the Holy Spirit might lead people to righteous anger, like Moses when he came down mount Sinai to find the people had made a golden calf and Moses was so angry that he smashed the stone tablets...
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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Moses also hit the rock one too many times because they kept whining which caused him never to enter the Promised Land.
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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Tammy -
Yes - we are allowed to have righteous anger. We are Christians (Christ -like). What angers God, angers us, starting with our own sin.
We are to hate sin and wickedness.
Matthew 3:7-8
English Standard Version (ESV)
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
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Permalink Reply by feet breath on
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That reminds me of a keychain I have. "Christians aren't perfect...just... forgiven".
Coffee Lover do you mean James 1:19? http://bible.cc/james/1-19.htm
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Permalink Reply by a servant (Chris) on
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Felicha
You are not alone. I think this happens because some Christians do and or have judged others. Others hear you are a Christian and they fall into conviction. They can even become angry with you because of this reason. The bottom line is, we are human. Jesus and Holy Spirit Who are Perfect may Live in us, but most of us are a "work in progress." I am for sure. His Grace and Mercy covers us. Just do your best as unto the Lord. What you may find is they treat you one way now, but when they need Prayer they will most likely seek you out.
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Felicha,
>>Why is it that when you let SOME people know you are a Christian they are afraid to say what is on their mind or they feel you are not allowed to get angry and if you do you are not a true Christian.
You have been given some good answers here by the family, but primarily the reason why the world reacts as they do with us, is becasue they are blind, as we once were, they are dead to spiritual things. The natural man cannot understand the things of the Spirit.
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Permalink Reply by Felicha Dixon on
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I appreciate that and you are right when they are having issues in their lives they do seek me out and many who do not actively pray ask for prayers and have quite a few questions about the bible and God's grace, for that I am truly thankful. I do mets best to encourage and minister w/o judgement. I keep prayerful and ask the Lord to Order my Steps
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Permalink Reply by Colby on
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Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple. He
drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers' coins over the
floor, and turned over their tables. (John 2:15, NLT)We're more accustomed to a different Jesus, aren't we? The common, Sunday School image we have of Jesus is the meek good shepherd carrying a baby lamb on his shoulders. So when Jesus makes a whip of cords and angrily clears the temple, we're taken aback. His action in the temple does not seem to fit the traditional image.
When Jesus saw what was happening in the temple, he got angry. He didn't lose his temper. But he got angry and his anger was righteous and purposeful.
Some mistakenly believe that Christians should never get angry because Jesus never did. Well, he did. Somehow it's been culturally ingrained that Christians are supposed to be passive, restrained people who have smiles on our faces always singing"don't worry, be happy." We're supposed to be whimpish and never let our anger show.
But, as we see with Jesus in the temple, there's nothing wrong with anger when it's directed to a righteous end. There's a place for righteous anger in our faith when we are being faithful to the Gospel.
However, before can point our finger at others, we need to point the finger at ourselves and allow our own anger to motivate us to change how we live our lives. We need to critically examine our own lives and turn the tables before we act so that our walk is consistent with our talk.
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Colby I am in total agreement, as Christians we do need to be aware what part of us is the leading part in our daily lives. Our spirit should lead, our soul which is the brain part should take direction from the spiritual part of ourselves and our fleshly body, heart & emotions follow last. Most of us do this backwards and as I continue my walk, I understand that I don't always have to have a response to what is said. Speak less and listen more has made my life better. We are cautioned to guard our hearts, basically not run on emotions. As w each work on these weaknesses in ourselves we find our spiritual side guiding more and the fleshly side following. I really have learned to let go and let God.
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